Fun at the vaccination center
- Clutch Cargo
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Re: Fun at the vaccination center
Just to expand on that, and no offence to OP but maybe I've been long enough in Cambodia to think I believe 90% of what I see and 10% of what I hear.
And so, I'm not prepared to extrapolate from unsubstantiated, claims and allegations unless it's widespread. It's the internet right?
OTOH I got up the Thais the other day for being xenophobic on another thread. However, in that case the circumstances were clear...a newsreader referred to hitting Indians before a cobra in front of National TV. The Indian embassy wrote to the broadcaster and it was conclusive what happened in that instance.
And by the way, just reading Kammekor's post, I recall Mrs Cargo saying some of her local khmer friends also had trouble getting their landlord to sign for their vax papers at the sangkat. That was at a particular sangkat that I later read on a FB expat group was asking for $$ for papers.
And so, I'm not prepared to extrapolate from unsubstantiated, claims and allegations unless it's widespread. It's the internet right?
OTOH I got up the Thais the other day for being xenophobic on another thread. However, in that case the circumstances were clear...a newsreader referred to hitting Indians before a cobra in front of National TV. The Indian embassy wrote to the broadcaster and it was conclusive what happened in that instance.
And by the way, just reading Kammekor's post, I recall Mrs Cargo saying some of her local khmer friends also had trouble getting their landlord to sign for their vax papers at the sangkat. That was at a particular sangkat that I later read on a FB expat group was asking for $$ for papers.
Re: Fun at the vaccination center
I am sure the jerk you're dealing with will make a larger effort to get some 'donation' from you than from a random Khmer farmer.
Edit: meant you in general, not the poster I replied to.
Re: Fun at the vaccination center
Money makes the world go round and some Khmer higher up simply are not ashamed to financially profit from a situation when someone has to depend on them.clutchcargo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:21 pm Just to expand on that, and no offence to OP but maybe I've been long enough in Cambodia to think I believe 90% of what I see and 10% of what I hear.
And so, I'm not prepared to extrapolate from unsubstantiated, claims and allegations unless it's widespread. It's the internet right?
OTOH I got up the Thais the other day for being xenophobic on another thread. However, in that case the circumstances were clear...a newsreader referred to hitting Indians before a cobra in front of National TV. The Indian embassy wrote to the broadcaster and it was conclusive what happened in that instance.
And by the way, just reading Kammekor's post, I recall Mrs Cargo saying some of her local khmer friends also had trouble getting their landlord to sign for their vax papers at the sangkat. That was at a particular sangkat that I later read on a FB expat group was asking for $$ for papers.
Re: Fun at the vaccination center
Always remember that their whole "nationalist facade" is literally bullshit, they don't just scam you but they'll scam their own widowed sister.
Re: Fun at the vaccination center
I find your reply overly apologetic. The rollout here is a clusterfuck. That doesn’t mean that straw man arguments are acceptable, xenophobia has no place anywhere.clutchcargo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:37 pmYes granted, hence why I said;Brody wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:25 pmParticular instance?clutchcargo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:16 pm Love the way there is an anecdotal report of a particular instance
How about AndyKK being endlessly jerked around?
How about the many reports of westerners attempting to get vaccinated being lied to and told to get a 'paper' from your 'embassy'?
I could go on, but you seem to see no issue.
But let's not overblow that way beyond what it is with much broader generalisations. As I said, these are issues at the local level but it doesn't equate to national policy or is necessarily rampant in the psyche of the community. That's the point I'm trying to make.and whilst there have have been issues around barangs having issues getting the required papers from the sangkat
Certainly there has been with some sangkats, a disconnect with local vs national directives but personally, I wouldn't draw such a long bow and claim something a lot more than what it is. In my opinion.
It has been 2.5 months since I was asked ( by my sanghat) to provide a list of names, id numbers, and phone numbers, for my co-workers.
I got a call asking to provide the previous at 8am one day. I rushed to provide the data, was quickly called back, and told to bring everyone @ 14:00, I did. There were exactly 2 people ahead of us. I walked up with all our documents (which I’d previously submitted) and was told to leave.
I now have everyone vaxxed ( who wants to be, smdh). But none of that was through “official” channels.
All of my co-workers are legal, even if they weren’t, imho, they should be vaxxed. If someone is illegal here, that doesn’t mean they can’t pass the virus.
This is something that affects everyone, any vaccine is better than no vaccine.
Xenophobia, fuck off. Ivermectin promoters, unless there is some data to show your claims( hint, it’s bullshit), I hope you go to jail for spreading disinformation
up to you...
Re: Fun at the vaccination center
I told you my experience. Nothing got lost in translation, nothing added.
That I am not getting the vaccine cause he have a bad day - okay (remember papers were already finished, fingerprinted and we had both waiting numbers). But the try to social distance me from my own wife made me a bit upset. He insisted that I move my chair away from my wife.
Anyway, no discussion with him to avoid future problems, I just left the vac center.
For getting the papers I needed already some days...
After that I drove to the sangkat. Guy at sangkat says he dont know his problem, the other foreigner got yesterday there a vaccination.
But I should not worry, there will be more vaccines for foreigners, too. But at a different place. I have to bring all my documents (copies) again (cause they threw them already away).
That I am not getting the vaccine cause he have a bad day - okay (remember papers were already finished, fingerprinted and we had both waiting numbers). But the try to social distance me from my own wife made me a bit upset. He insisted that I move my chair away from my wife.
Anyway, no discussion with him to avoid future problems, I just left the vac center.
For getting the papers I needed already some days...
After that I drove to the sangkat. Guy at sangkat says he dont know his problem, the other foreigner got yesterday there a vaccination.
But I should not worry, there will be more vaccines for foreigners, too. But at a different place. I have to bring all my documents (copies) again (cause they threw them already away).
Re: Fun at the vaccination center
Your Khmer was sufficient to deal with this situation, your wife's Khmer was sufficient, or nobody spoke enough Khmer to deal with it?kerberus wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:55 pm I told you my experience. Nothing got lost in translation, nothing added.
That I am not getting the vaccine cause he have a bad day - okay (remember papers were already finished, fingerprinted and we had both waiting numbers). But the try to social distance me from my own wife made me a bit upset. He insisted that I move my chair away from my wife.
Anyway, no discussion with him to avoid future problems, I just left the vac center.
For getting the papers I needed already some days...
After that I drove to the sangkat. Guy at sangkat says he dont know his problem, the other foreigner got yesterday there a vaccination.
But I should not worry, there will be more vaccines for foreigners, too. But at a different place. I have to bring all my documents (copies) again (cause they threw them already away).
Re: Fun at the vaccination center
SufficientKammekor wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:10 pmYour Khmer was sufficient to deal with this situation, your wife's Khmer was sufficient, or nobody spoke enough Khmer to deal with it?kerberus wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:55 pm I told you my experience. Nothing got lost in translation, nothing added.
That I am not getting the vaccine cause he have a bad day - okay (remember papers were already finished, fingerprinted and we had both waiting numbers). But the try to social distance me from my own wife made me a bit upset. He insisted that I move my chair away from my wife.
Anyway, no discussion with him to avoid future problems, I just left the vac center.
For getting the papers I needed already some days...
After that I drove to the sangkat. Guy at sangkat says he dont know his problem, the other foreigner got yesterday there a vaccination.
But I should not worry, there will be more vaccines for foreigners, too. But at a different place. I have to bring all my documents (copies) again (cause they threw them already away).
Last edited by kerberus on Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Fun at the vaccination center
Attempting to present and be jabbed tomorrow
I'll report what my experience is like, all going well
I'll report what my experience is like, all going well
Re: Fun at the vaccination center
The problem I had was that the village chief decided to change the venue already in place, but to do the people in their own naigbourhood, but his own words "no barang", but this was also said, that my partner would also not get the vaccination because she was with a barang.
I see the word xenophobic, I don't think its has clear, firstly the big boss staited stick to the vaccination program, and don't leave anyone out. Down the ladder they don't seem to, or want to follow what is asked of them. Also, yes! I do think it is to do with monies, being thats what they think of the barang in many cases. Put yourself in their shoes, for over 20 years there has been donations from western countries.
I see the word xenophobic, I don't think its has clear, firstly the big boss staited stick to the vaccination program, and don't leave anyone out. Down the ladder they don't seem to, or want to follow what is asked of them. Also, yes! I do think it is to do with monies, being thats what they think of the barang in many cases. Put yourself in their shoes, for over 20 years there has been donations from western countries.
Always "hope" but never "expect".
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