Malaysian Allegedly Dies of Covid After Refusal of Treatment
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Re: Malaysian Allegedly Dies of Covid After Refusal of Treatment
or, 3) Take Ivermectin (and other cheap and easy to get meds) as per the protocol laid out by the FLCCC.Doc67 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:27 pm So, in a nutshell, you have 2 choices:
If you get Covid-19 and try to ride it out out yourself at home, you are running a big risk because if you deteriorate to the point that you need hospitalisation, you will be refused treatment from just about everywhere;
or
When you suspect you have Covid-19, and you get a test which comes back positive, you run the risk of being carted off to some hot-as-hell makeshift hospital where you could languish for 2 weeks until you are either cured or dead.
Neither of these options sound very appealing.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/
Re: Malaysian Allegedly Dies of Covid After Refusal of Treatment
I could not edit my post so I will repeat itKuroneko wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:56 pmThat's how I would see ittimmydownawell wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:21 pm If Calmette says they have a lack of oxygen equipment, could that translate as their ICU being full?
That's how I would see ittimmydownawell wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:21 pm If Calmette says they have a lack of oxygen equipment, could that translate as their ICU being full?
To correct my above statement:
Being full I mean they are at capacity with dealing with patients requiring ventilators and specific oxygen equipment. Cambodia received 8 ventilators from WHO last month which is the first shipment of 185 units. I do not know if Calmette has any units and so if they have one unit which is in use they are at capacity. The statement "Calmette says they have a lack of oxygen equipment" means exactly what it says.
Re: Malaysian Allegedly Dies of Covid After Refusal of Treatment
Good news... the virus thing is being wrapped up.
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Re: Malaysian Allegedly Dies of Covid After Refusal of Treatment
I just read this news post here: post500362.html#p500362Doc67 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:27 pm So, in a nutshell, you have 2 choices:
If you get Covid-19 and try to ride it out out yourself at home, you are running a big risk because if you deteriorate to the point that you need hospitalisation, you will be refused treatment from just about everywhere;
or
When you suspect you have Covid-19, and you get a test which comes back positive, you run the risk of being carted off to some hot-as-hell makeshift hospital where you could languish for 2 weeks until you are either cured or dead.
Neither of these options sound very appealing.
TBH, and sounds like I missed an earlier news item, I don't recall that any private hospitals could treat covid cases. So this is new news to me.Another private hospital in Phnom Penh has just obtained the green light from the Ministry of Health to examine, care and treat COVID-19 patients.
The newly-authorised hospital for COVID-19 treatment is Chbar Ampov Polyclinic located on National Road 1 in Sangkat Chbar Ampov 1, Khan Chbar Ampov, according to the ministry’s official announcement released this morning.
This is the fourth private hospital to be granted the right. The other three are Central, Royal Phnom Penh, and Visalsok Poly Clinic.
That being said, if you have money and/or medical insurance, you may have a 3rd choice..private hospital and (I suspect) they may have a better facilities incl. breathing equipment?
Re: Malaysian Allegedly Dies of Covid After Refusal of Treatment
I suspect they are all full and they have too many people who they simply cannot cure, the long term ICU patients who stay for many weeks. And now they have lots more needing ICU care. Sooner or later someone is going to pull the plug on the 'incurable' otherwise the people needing UCU care are going to die without it, and quickly.timmydownawell wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 1:21 pm If Calmette says they have a lack of oxygen equipment, could that translate as their ICU being full?
That could explain the sudden and consistent rise to around 30 people a day dying.
Does anyone know the actual number of ICU beds available in the whole of the country?
Re: Malaysian Allegedly Dies of Covid After Refusal of Treatment
I have medical insurance and I am assured by the broker it covers Covid-19. The problem is you will not be able to convince the front desk at Royal Phnom Penh of that fact if you can barely breath or stand up. You'll be lucky to even get transport to get you there.clutchcargo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 7:06 pmI just read this news post here: post500362.html#p500362Doc67 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:27 pm So, in a nutshell, you have 2 choices:
If you get Covid-19 and try to ride it out out yourself at home, you are running a big risk because if you deteriorate to the point that you need hospitalisation, you will be refused treatment from just about everywhere;
or
When you suspect you have Covid-19, and you get a test which comes back positive, you run the risk of being carted off to some hot-as-hell makeshift hospital where you could languish for 2 weeks until you are either cured or dead.
Neither of these options sound very appealing.
TBH, and sounds like I missed an earlier news item, I don't recall that any private hospitals could treat covid cases. So this is new news to me.Another private hospital in Phnom Penh has just obtained the green light from the Ministry of Health to examine, care and treat COVID-19 patients.
The newly-authorised hospital for COVID-19 treatment is Chbar Ampov Polyclinic located on National Road 1 in Sangkat Chbar Ampov 1, Khan Chbar Ampov, according to the ministry’s official announcement released this morning.
This is the fourth private hospital to be granted the right. The other three are Central, Royal Phnom Penh, and Visalsok Poly Clinic.
That being said, if you have money and/or medical insurance, you may have a 3rd choice..private hospital and (I suspect) they may have a better facilities incl. breathing equipment?
Re: Malaysian Allegedly Dies of Covid After Refusal of Treatment
Hmm, that's part of option 1.armchairlawyer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 2:19 pmor, 3) Take Ivermectin (and other cheap and easy to get meds) as per the protocol laid out by the FLCCC.Doc67 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:27 pm So, in a nutshell, you have 2 choices:
If you get Covid-19 and try to ride it out out yourself at home, you are running a big risk because if you deteriorate to the point that you need hospitalisation, you will be refused treatment from just about everywhere;
or
When you suspect you have Covid-19, and you get a test which comes back positive, you run the risk of being carted off to some hot-as-hell makeshift hospital where you could languish for 2 weeks until you are either cured or dead.
Neither of these options sound very appealing.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/
Anyway, I have them in stock along with my alcohol free Listerine, Paracetamol and PG Tips.
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Re: Malaysian Allegedly Dies of Covid After Refusal of Treatment
OK, but not a big risk because the research shows if you take the right meds at an early stage, you will very likely get better and not need hospitalisation.Doc67 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 06, 2021 7:47 amHmm, that's part of option 1.armchairlawyer wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 2:19 pmor, 3) Take Ivermectin (and other cheap and easy to get meds) as per the protocol laid out by the FLCCC.Doc67 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 05, 2021 12:27 pm So, in a nutshell, you have 2 choices:
If you get Covid-19 and try to ride it out out yourself at home, you are running a big risk because if you deteriorate to the point that you need hospitalisation, you will be refused treatment from just about everywhere;
or
When you suspect you have Covid-19, and you get a test which comes back positive, you run the risk of being carted off to some hot-as-hell makeshift hospital where you could languish for 2 weeks until you are either cured or dead.
Neither of these options sound very appealing.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/
Anyway, I have them in stock along with my alcohol free Listerine, Paracetamol and PG Tips.
Re: Malaysian Allegedly Dies of Covid After Refusal of Treatment
I have medical insurance and I am assured by the broker it covers Covid-19. The problem is you will not be able to convince the front desk at Royal Phnom Penh of that fact if you can barely breath or stand up. You'll be lucky to even get transport to get you there.
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On a serious note.
Take a credit card (or two) along with a printout of your credit limit from your online account. Last time I was there they wanted a $500 deposit if admitted. Tell them to take 10 day's deposit in case of serious problem and show them 2nd card and its credit limit. If that isn't much then I'd print out a copy of your bank statement or brokerage account to show that your capable of paying the bill. That plus your insurance card should ensure you'll get care.
I'd also arrange to have a friend be there on your behalf (normally they could sleep in the room on the sofa and shower in the room also, but I assume with Covid they'd have to come/go every day). That would allow you to have someone to approve ongoing expenses and to periodically (think every two days) check the charges. They are actually very good about telling about the costs for tests/procedures upfront, but what I've experienced and seen are "extra" doctor fees for a colleague to come by one day and look at a chart..... along with a $120 2nd doctor fee for the day. Fine if a specialist is needed but your lunch buddy looking at a chart with you for 5 minutes isn't something you should be billing extra.
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On a serious note.
Take a credit card (or two) along with a printout of your credit limit from your online account. Last time I was there they wanted a $500 deposit if admitted. Tell them to take 10 day's deposit in case of serious problem and show them 2nd card and its credit limit. If that isn't much then I'd print out a copy of your bank statement or brokerage account to show that your capable of paying the bill. That plus your insurance card should ensure you'll get care.
I'd also arrange to have a friend be there on your behalf (normally they could sleep in the room on the sofa and shower in the room also, but I assume with Covid they'd have to come/go every day). That would allow you to have someone to approve ongoing expenses and to periodically (think every two days) check the charges. They are actually very good about telling about the costs for tests/procedures upfront, but what I've experienced and seen are "extra" doctor fees for a colleague to come by one day and look at a chart..... along with a $120 2nd doctor fee for the day. Fine if a specialist is needed but your lunch buddy looking at a chart with you for 5 minutes isn't something you should be billing extra.
Re: Malaysian Allegedly Dies of Covid After Refusal of Treatment
I am friend of the deceased's family. Need someone's help in the process of the deceased cremation and exporting his ashes to Malaysia after cremation. As its the period of Covid 19, the family is not able to travel to Cambodia. Anyone who can help, pls contact. Thks
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