Satellite images show China building what appears to be over 100 new silos for its nuclear missiles, analysts say

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Satellite images show China building what appears to be over 100 new silos for its nuclear missiles, analysts say

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Satellite images show China building what appears to be over 100 new silos for its nuclear missiles, analysts say

https://www.yahoo.com/news/satellite-im ... 21695.html

China appears to be building more than 100 new missile silos in the desert, according to an analysis of satellite imagery first reported by the Washington Post Wednesday.

Analyzing satellite images from Planet Labs, Jeffrey Lewis and Decker Eveleth, researchers at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies, identified 119 apparent intercontinental ballistic missile silos under construction near Yumen in Gansu province.

The researchers also identified the construction of a possible control center.


The report follows one published in February from Federation of American Scientists researcher Hans Kristensen, who observed that China was constructing a number of additional ballistic missile silos in part of central China.

Lewis told the Post that "if the silos under construction at other sites across China are added to the count, the total comes to about 145 silos under construction."

The belief, he said, is that "China is expanding its nuclear forces in part to maintain a deterrent that can survive a US first strike in sufficient numbers to defeat US missile defenses."

That said, it is unclear whether China intends to fill all of the silos with nuclear missiles.

There is "a very good chance that China is planning a shell game," Lewis said. If that is the case, it would mimic a US strategy implemented during the Cold War and possibly boost deterrence through strategic uncertainty.


China, with only a few hundred nuclear weapons, has a significantly smaller nuclear arsenal than the US and Russia, which possess thousands of nuclear weapons, but the Pentagon has said that China appears to be expanding its nuclear capabilities.

The Department of Defense explained in its 2020 China military power report that evidence indicates "China intends to increase the peacetime readiness of its nuclear forces by moving to a launch-on-warning (LOW) posture with an expanded silo-based force."

The report further noted that "over the next decade, China's nuclear warhead stockpile-currently estimated to be in the low 200s-is projected to at least double in size as China expands and modernizes its nuclear forces."

At least some of the new missile silos under construction across China are suspected to have been designed to house the new DF-41 ICBM. Though the DF-41 was debuted as a road-mobile missile, China is believed to be looking at rail and silo basing as alternatives.

Like its predecessor, the Biden administration has expressed a desire for an arms control mechanism of some type that would also cover China's evolving nuclear arsenal, not just those of the US and Russia. It is, however, unclear how it intends to achieve this.
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Here's a map of American military bases surrounding China for comparison.

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xandreu wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:41 pm Here's a map of American military bases surrounding China for comparison.
The comparison is moot.

How many of those bases "surrounding China" are equipped with nuclear weapons?

I'll wait as you Google.
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Brody wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:51 pm
xandreu wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:41 pm Here's a map of American military bases surrounding China for comparison.
The comparison is moot.

How many of those bases "surrounding China" are equipped with nuclear weapons?

I'll wait as you Google.
I don't know.

How many are there?
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The map shown of US Bases is stretching the bow on this subject title a bit. Australia for instance shows 3 bases at Darwin, Alice Springs and the third one looks like Learmonth in Western Australia.
Darwin - The US uses the training grounds well outside of Darwin called the Bradshaw Field Training Area which the Australian army owns and runs since it was bought back in 1996. The Americans rotate their personnel through for various exercises and while there has been talk of it in the future the Americans have not built any thing as far as permanent accommodation or infrastructure as far as I know.
Alice Springs - Well known for the Top Secret installations within the fencing, Pine Gap is run by both Australian and US military personnel. While it's main purpose is satellite surveillance and therefore would be a target for an enemy there is not much else there.
Learmonth - It was quite a large American run base and serviced shipping including submarines back in its heyday but now almost the only thing remaining is the wharf with pretty much all else decommissioned or demolished. The airport just outside Learmonth services both civilian and military aircraft but is referred to as a Bare Base and there would be about 3 personnel there full time. They would be civilian, RAAF Reservist (RAAF - Royal Australian Air Force), RAAF full time or a combination. The airfield is used for various exercises throughout the year but at other times it is very quiet. Learmonth was used as the base of operation during the search for MH370 off the coast of WA when it disappeared.
I think you would find similar about the other supposed bases in that map shown above as some would be mere bare bases, some would be at a stage where they could be reactivated but not in a short time period while other may be actually fully manned.
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Launching nuclear weapons from silos? How quaint. Where's the map of nuclear armed submarines .. ;)
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To be clear, by posting my hastily found photo of supposed US bases surrounding China doesn't in any way indicate that I am somehow pro-China and anti-US.

I was merely trying to raise the point that as a growing superpower, China is not really doing anything out of the ordinary, when you look at how other growing super powers have behaved throughout history.

The fact is that the US does have China encircled with military bases and it would be highly unusual for China not to find ways of defending itself against this threat, in much the same way that North Korea does with it's nukes.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that there isn't anything unusual about the op's story.

Which begs the question, if every country is developing arms to protect themselves, who exactly are they protecting themselves from?
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Kahuna wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:27 pm The map shown of US Bases is stretching the bow on this subject title a bit. Australia for instance shows 3 bases at Darwin, Alice Springs and the third one looks like Learmonth in Western Australia.
Darwin - The US uses the training grounds well outside of Darwin called the Bradshaw Field Training Area which the Australian army owns and runs since it was bought back in 1996. The Americans rotate their personnel through for various exercises and while there has been talk of it in the future the Americans have not built any thing as far as permanent accommodation or infrastructure as far as I know.
Alice Springs - Well known for the Top Secret installations within the fencing, Pine Gap is run by both Australian and US military personnel. While it's main purpose is satellite surveillance and therefore would be a target for an enemy there is not much else there.
Learmonth - It was quite a large American run base and serviced shipping including submarines back in its heyday but now almost the only thing remaining is the wharf with pretty much all else decommissioned or demolished. The airport just outside Learmonth services both civilian and military aircraft but is referred to as a Bare Base and there would be about 3 personnel there full time. They would be civilian, RAAF Reservist (RAAF - Royal Australian Air Force), RAAF full time or a combination. The airfield is used for various exercises throughout the year but at other times it is very quiet. Learmonth was used as the base of operation during the search for MH370 off the coast of WA when it disappeared.
I think you would find similar about the other supposed bases in that map shown above as some would be mere bare bases, some would be at a stage where they could be reactivated but not in a short time period while other may be actually fully manned.
Continuing your point, I wonder what the three bases on mainland SEA are? Maybe one is the repair facility at Ream that was demolished a while back? I heard that the reason it wasn't used is that the US built it, but the RCAF wanted them to pay for all the repairs too!
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China doesnt do anything different what USA and Russia did it already in the past or still doing, they learned from them. Who to blame for the fast rising of the country which was land of the peasants not to long ago? Hm, greedy western capitalists closed factories in the west, which left millions of unemployed and moved production to the China for more profit. China had stolen knowledge and developed own technology And now those stinky rich capitalists backed by bought politicians marionettes shouting and pointing from 100m something long yachts docked somewhere in Monaco or in Caribbean see: China is your enemy!
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Chuck Borris wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 7:18 pm China doesnt do anything different what USA and Russia did it already in the past or still doing, they learned from them. Who to blame for the fast rising of the country which was land of the peasants not to long ago? Hm, greedy western capitalists closed factories in the west, which left millions of unemployed and moved production to the China for more profit. China had stolen knowledge and developed own technology And now those stinky rich capitalists backed by bought politicians marionettes shouting and pointing from 100m something long yachts docked somewhere in Monaco or in Caribbean see: China is your enemy!
That's a retarded take away from this
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