Kammekor wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:40 am When in Phnom Penh I like do to some morning work at Brown cafe on street 214. Two weeks ago they were closed, reason: some infected person had had a coffee there. I was a bit surprised to be honest because the staff there always insist you use the QR code outside and it's always quiet there since covid has taken off.

Anyway, today I saw they had reopened and I decided to go in. Had a chat with the staff and asked about how they'd been over the last two weeks. They told me one of the staff had had some symptoms, comparable to a cold, but she had been admitted to one of the 'covid hospitals' for fourteen days. All other staff had been told to quarantine for 14 days and had either not been infected or had no symptoms. Of course all the staff are young healthy youngsters, late teens or early twenties I guess. Also asked if their salaries would be paid normally or not, and they told me they don't know.

They told me one of the staff had had some symptoms, comparable to a cold, but she had been admitted to one of the 'covid hospitals' for fourteen days.

And this is what scares people the most, being taken away to languish, in discomfort and with crap food, for 2 weeks.

Avoid being tested at all costs.

clutchcargo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:54 pm ^^
All good points there @AndyKK, I guess we have to hang in tight for the time being until more solid efficacy results come in. I think we have to be as diligent as ever with precautions coz despite no lockdowns in most areas..it's getting close to home.

In just Daun Penh. French guy Bruno from Chez Gaston passed away recently. Doc67's neighbour across the road got covid. Kandal market closed today. And I've seen taped off streets in the area as I mentioned on the general Cambodia covid news thread.

Really?

Last time you said the Frenchman had "succumbed" but he was apparently still alive. Can we assume that "passed away" has it's normal everyday meaning?

Doc67 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 9:19 am

clutchcargo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:54 pm ^^
All good points there @AndyKK, I guess we have to hang in tight for the time being until more solid efficacy results come in. I think we have to be as diligent as ever with precautions coz despite no lockdowns in most areas..it's getting close to home.

In just Daun Penh. French guy Bruno from Chez Gaston passed away recently. Doc67's neighbour across the road got covid. Kandal market closed today. And I've seen taped off streets in the area as I mentioned on the general Cambodia covid news thread.

Really?

Last time you said the Frenchman had "succumbed" but he was apparently still alive. Can we assume that "passed away" has it's normal everyday meaning?

My understanding was that you can succumb to an illness but not necessarily die from it.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dicti ... sh/succumb

2. VERB
If you succumb to an illness, you become affected by it or die from it.

NB my bolding of 'or' in the above quote.

So I originally used that word in terms of 'affected or came down with Covid 19'. With hindsight that was unfortunate as it seems some members associate the word more with it's alternate meaning of 'dying'. Furthermore, he had posted on FB that all staff were vaccinated and I took that to mean himself as well. So I assumed it was a case of testing positive, he would quarantine for 14 days and recover. Someone on FB later said he wasn't vaccinated and couldn't coz of a medical condition and sadly he did pass away.

If I had my time again, I wouldn't have used that word and probably shouldn't have made the positive assumption that he would be fine and recover. I apologise if I've offended people. There was a no malintent and I did use the word thinking in the context of being 'affected by the illness'.