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Try and do good an see where it gets ya in Cambodia?
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A rights group said three Mother Nature activists were documenting sewage flowing into the Tonle Sap, similar to this drain photographed at Phnom Penh’s Riverside on June 17, 2021.

Four activists arrested this week are all from environmental group Mother Nature, a rights group has said — as an Interior Ministry official alleged the “rebellious” group was using foreign money to try to topple the government.

On Friday, neither National Police spokesman Chhay Kim Khoeun nor a municipal court spokesperson could be reached to clarify the latest status of those arrested.

Three activists were reportedly taken into custody in Phnom Penh and a fourth in Kandal province on Wednesday, but on Thursday Kim Khoeun said there were only three arrests.

The Cambodian Center for Human Rights, in an alert issued Thursday, said all four activists were members of the environmental group Mother Nature. The three arrested in Phnom Penh were filming sewage on the Riverside, it said.
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Mother Nature co-founder Alejandra Gonzalez-Davidson, who was deported from Cambodia in 2015 and lives in Spain, said the government was a “paranoid dictatorship” to see enemies and conspiracies to topple it “when a few young Cambodians are simply taking a few images of sewage being poured into a river.”
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Yes, one day after the US said it was not going to pay to preserve forests in Prey Lang etc because of lack of results. These activists have been charged with "Terrorism". FFS

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John Bingham wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:35 pm Yes, one day after the US said it was not going to pay to preserve forests in Prey Lang etc because of lack of results. These activists have been charged with "Terrorism". FFS

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John Bingham wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:35 pm Yes, one day after the US said it was not going to pay to preserve forests in Prey Lang etc because of lack of results. These activists have been charged with "Terrorism". FFS

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Envir ... on-project
cant read it ( found it here for free, https://www.euronews.com/2021/06/17/us- ... nvironment )
The Cambodian government denied that large-scale illegal logging activities were continuing in the sanctuary and said the ending of the U.S. aid programme showed the country was now capable of protecting the environment on its own

“The ministry of environment would like to emphasize that large-scale natural resource crimes in the Prey Lang Wildlife Sanctuary and other protected areas no longer occur, but small-scale crimes continue to occur,” the ministry’s spokesman Neth Pheaktra told Reuters.
Yea, right

I wonder how much is this to do with the US not being allowed onto the naval base recently?
not just no results..
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Yet, the government is going full steam ahead on selling carbon credits to western governments and corporations. On the full faith that these same forests that are generating the credits aren’t being cut down and sold for wood. Or the credits aren’t be resold over and over.

The world is full of environmental leaders that can be taken advantage of. And Cambodia is doing it’s part to the fullest . Virtuous circle achieved.
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The sad truth is that there is a lot of money to be made, especially in land development - the most lucrative sector of the economy - and environmental issues almost always stand in the way of those piles of 100 dollar notes being used to snort cocaine to celebrate the latest money-making deal.

The problem lies in the fact that the people wishing to profit from the destruction of natural habitats or outstanding places of natural beauty, have far, far, far more money to be thrown around at the right people than a bunch of old hippies trying to protect what we all know is right.

This is the ugly, despicable face of capitalism that not many people want to talk about. Don't get me wrong, I'm no Michael Moore or Bernie Sanders. I do believe that, on the whole, capitalism has and continues to be a positive force for the world and brings more people out of poverty and gives people more hope to help themselves than any other system devised so far.

But that's not to say it's perfect, and in many areas, it is far, far far from perfect. There are some things that you simple cannot leave up to market forces. By doing so, and without government intervention, you leave them ripe open to abuse. Here's a few more:

Bank regulation (its no wonder that the 2008 crash happened just a few short years after banks were deregulated by Thatcher and Reagan)

Environment issues - The profit incentive will always far outweigh the noble cause to strive towards environmental sustainability.

The housing crisis - It is the governments job to ensure that there is affordable housing for all. Allowing mega-rich foreigners to come into the housing market and buy up huge swathes of property only to be used as investments (nobody will actually live there) thus pushing up housing prices for everyone ese is simply scandalous. What is the point of government if it is not to protect it's own citizens from practices like this?

Do more to incentivise people into taking a more active role in the company they work for. Explain to kids at school age how the stock market works and the benefits of not only drawing a wage, but investing some of that wage back into the company in return for taking a dividend. We live in a capitalist system yet children are not taught how the system that they live in actually works and how they can take advantage of it.

Health care - not appropriate to anyone outside of America, but it astounds me how Americans are happy to pay into social ideals such as free, universal basic education for all (which doesn't save lives) or a police force /fire service which comes of of their taxes (again doesn't save lives, it merely rescues them on a short term basis) or other 'socialist ideals' such as paying for people to clean the streets, look after street furniture, build and maintain roads, hell, even Government itself is paid for by the people and (supposedly) works for the people - a social concept - yet when it comes to the most important aspect of life itself, the one which is literally a case of life or death - you're on your own. No offense to our American friends, the but rest of the world has never been able to get it's head around that.

I could go on but I doubt anyone has got this far already.

As I said, I strongly believe in capitalism in general and believe it has much, much more merits over socialism or communism, but capitalism, especially since I was a kid, has gone through the roof and is no longer anywhere near the ideal we were promised just 20-30 years ago. It desperately needs a re-haul and overview to make governments go back to serving the people that elect it rather than bit business with deep pockets.

Sorry to go off topic from the original post but I genuinely believe that all of these issues, environments ones included, are linked and we cannot tackle one issue without tacking them all.
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It's quite unfortunate really... I can never fault people for trying to work and make money for their families. Those who are on the ground trying to prevent the madness have a difficult job because the people with the financial means who wish to acquire the resources don't really give a ratz behind how they get it. Even if you stop them once they will come back because of the demand.

If we can figure out the demand side the supply channel will fall into place. If a law is violated then people should be held accountable. I'm still trying to figure out if they were able to find out how those cam rare logs got to hk and who was responsible for them hahaha...

Politically though Cam is in a weird spot because of outside influences. We can only hope whichever direction it flows it is right for the people.
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