Replacements for wooden posts
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Re: Replacements for wooden posts
Yeah then definitely use the cement/concrete posts (very little gravel/thin rebar in there though, that's why I hesitate to call them concrete). Very cheap and will last though.daeum_tnaot wrote:Hi, no it's not meant to be decorative. You're right, now that I think of it I have often seen cement posts used for this here.Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 1:12 pm Decorative or not? Most use cement posts. Wooden posts don't last long here.
Wood is actually environmentally friendly if sourced and grown properly, but most wood here obviously isn't. Wood for posts and concrete slabs is generally from plantations though, but not many around. I'm afraid Cambodia and "environmentally friendly" don't really go together. Cement obviously had an environmental cost as well. I'm afraid it's your only viable option though as anything you put in the ground will rot quickly otherwise (speaking from experience).
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Timber in the ground is an invitation to termites.
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Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:33 pmYeah then definitely use the cement/concrete posts (very little gravel/thin rebar in there though, that's why I hesitate to call them concrete). Very cheap and will last though.daeum_tnaot wrote:Hi, no it's not meant to be decorative. You're right, now that I think of it I have often seen cement posts used for this here.Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 1:12 pm Decorative or not? Most use cement posts. Wooden posts don't last long here.
Wood is actually environmentally friendly if sourced and grown properly, but most wood here obviously isn't. Wood for posts and concrete slabs is generally from plantations though, but not many around. I'm afraid Cambodia and "environmentally friendly" don't really go together. Cement obviously had an environmental cost as well. I'm afraid it's your only viable option though as anything you put in the ground will rot quickly otherwise (speaking from experience).
I got like 50 of them for 75 quid, although that was out in the boonies some time back now. 50 quid more to get them in the ground and it was sorted. Easy to run wire and cheap too
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Re: Replacements for wooden posts
Wen you say reinforced concrete is not environmentally friendly I guess you mean the process of mining the materials for the concrete. I've seen a little of that going on in Kampot.IraHayes wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 2:13 pm neither wood nor reinforced concrete is environmentally friendly and even sourcing the wooden posts from trees currently growing on the land may not be a good idea as they may not be suitable for the job at hand.
I will go with Jerry here and advise using concrete posts but JBs suggestion of dipping any wooden post in oil prior to final use as a post is also solid advice but it may not be practical and would require:
A. The oil
B. a trough long enough for the dipping (though painting the oil on may be an option but dipping is preferable)
As with many things there are tradeoffs between one env. cost and another. In the Cambodian context I'm guessing the wooden poles would be worse for the environment.
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OK, great, that sounds good.Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:33 pmYeah then definitely use the cement/concrete posts (very little gravel/thin rebar in there though, that's why I hesitate to call them concrete). Very cheap and will last though.daeum_tnaot wrote:Hi, no it's not meant to be decorative. You're right, now that I think of it I have often seen cement posts used for this here.Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 1:12 pm Decorative or not? Most use cement posts. Wooden posts don't last long here.
Wood is actually environmentally friendly if sourced and grown properly, but most wood here obviously isn't. Wood for posts and concrete slabs is generally from plantations though, but not many around. I'm afraid Cambodia and "environmentally friendly" don't really go together. Cement obviously had an environmental cost as well. I'm afraid it's your only viable option though as anything you put in the ground will rot quickly otherwise (speaking from experience).
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We are still trying to do this job remotely. We have been quoted some very high prices for cement posts in Cambodia. The cheapest price we have been told is 15,000 riel each.Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 7:33 pmYeah then definitely use the cement/concrete posts (very little gravel/thin rebar in there though, that's why I hesitate to call them concrete). Very cheap and will last though.daeum_tnaot wrote:Hi, no it's not meant to be decorative. You're right, now that I think of it I have often seen cement posts used for this here.Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 1:12 pm Decorative or not? Most use cement posts. Wooden posts don't last long here.
Wood is actually environmentally friendly if sourced and grown properly, but most wood here obviously isn't. Wood for posts and concrete slabs is generally from plantations though, but not many around. I'm afraid Cambodia and "environmentally friendly" don't really go together. Cement obviously had an environmental cost as well. I'm afraid it's your only viable option though as anything you put in the ground will rot quickly otherwise (speaking from experience).
Does that sound like the right cost? Supposedly we can get wooden poles for about 3,000 riel each.
How much would it cost if we bought cement and did it ourselves? (cement is about 20,000 per bag but I can't remember the ratio of sand to cement. Plus someone mentioned about using steel bars).
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If you choose wood you'll be doing it all again in 1-2 years. And no, don't try to make your own posts. Just don't. Doing stuff like that remotely is always a pain.
There are several options for the posts, depending on the height (I think they come in 1.2m and 1.5 but can't recall). I think ~$2 is a decent price, but are they quoting you 15000r including labour to put them in? In that case it sounds like a decent deal. I think putting them in probably costs $1-2.5/post.
There are several options for the posts, depending on the height (I think they come in 1.2m and 1.5 but can't recall). I think ~$2 is a decent price, but are they quoting you 15000r including labour to put them in? In that case it sounds like a decent deal. I think putting them in probably costs $1-2.5/post.
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Ratio of sand to cement:
I usually take 1 part cement + 2 parts of sand + 3 parts of gravel when making concrete mixtures. Or 1 part cement + 3 parts of sand when not using gravel in the mix.
I usually take 1 part cement + 2 parts of sand + 3 parts of gravel when making concrete mixtures. Or 1 part cement + 3 parts of sand when not using gravel in the mix.
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My wife's father is the one who will be doing the installation. He normally he works as a construction worker so he may be able to handle making posts. Do you agree with that or why do you think we shouldn't try to make our own?Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: ↑Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:24 pm If you choose wood you'll be doing it all again in 1-2 years. And no, don't try to make your own posts. Just don't. Doing stuff like that remotely is always a pain.
There are several options for the posts, depending on the height (I think they come in 1.2m and 1.5 but can't recall). I think ~$2 is a decent price, but are they quoting you 15000r including labour to put them in? In that case it sounds like a decent deal. I think putting them in probably costs $1-2.5/post.
The price of 15,000 is not including the price of installation. That's the cost of the post that we were told. My wife is also warning me that the delivery cost is on top of that.
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