What does true love look like?

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Re: What does true love look like?

Post by LTO » Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:24 pm

paparazzi wrote:I am a little puzzled. Jesus says to the thief next to him on the cross he will be with him in heaven this day. Then he takes 3 days to rise. Should he not have said "See you in a few days...." ?
No, heaven is in a completely different time zone, and you cross the inter-dimensional date line on the way there.

I'm more concerned about the inscription on the cross. 4 gospels. 4 writers. 4 different versions of the sign. Seems they couldn't even copy a sign accurately. As editor-in-chief of the Bible, this would seem to point out a contradiction between God's omnipotence, omniscience and literacy.
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Re: What does true love look like?

Post by Sir_Quality_U_Feel » Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:13 pm

Samouth wrote:
Soi Dog wrote:I don't see what the big deal was. Crucifixion was a very common occurrence back in Jesus' day. Why was his special? Because his was voluntary?
This is what i have learned and been told. The reason that his Crucifixion was special, because he died for us (sinner). He had been crucified to save us from sin. His father (God) sent him to save us. His blood flow by being crucified saved us.

Then, when i had been told that Jesus is God. I was immediately confusing.
You are not a sinner nor were you born one. That's stupid mumbo jumbo. It's easy to control people who already are made out to feel guilty from the time of their birth.
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Re: What does true love look like?

Post by potty » Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:20 am

jesus didnt hand himself hin. he was arrested on the ount of olives, when i remember right.

he was interrogated and spoke up to his defense.

thats far from suicide.


what exactly he said, is apparently incomplete and possibly was modified, to make him "special enough".

jesus didnt want to found a church nor did he change any rules of his super-jewish lifestyle.
so, whats YOUR love?
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Re: What does true love look like?

Post by potty » Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:27 am

the sin comes from the apple-incident in garden eden.
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Re: What does true love look like?

Post by Samouth » Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:35 am

Sir_Quality_U_Feel wrote:
Samouth wrote:
Soi Dog wrote:I don't see what the big deal was. Crucifixion was a very common occurrence back in Jesus' day. Why was his special? Because his was voluntary?
This is what i have learned and been told. The reason that his Crucifixion was special, because he died for us (sinner). He had been crucified to save us from sin. His father (God) sent him to save us. His blood flow by being crucified saved us.

Then, when i had been told that Jesus is God. I was immediately confusing.
You are not a sinner nor were you born one. That's stupid mumbo jumbo. It's easy to control people who already are made out to feel guilty from the time of their birth.
True. If you always felt that you have committed sin, you wouldn't feel happy inside, all always feel guilty.
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Re: What does true love look like?

Post by MekongMouse » Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:15 am

Samouth wrote:
Sir_Quality_U_Feel wrote:
Samouth wrote:
Soi Dog wrote:I don't see what the big deal was. Crucifixion was a very common occurrence back in Jesus' day. Why was his special? Because his was voluntary?
This is what i have learned and been told. The reason that his Crucifixion was special, because he died for us (sinner). He had been crucified to save us from sin. His father (God) sent him to save us. His blood flow by being crucified saved us.

Then, when i had been told that Jesus is God. I was immediately confusing.
You are not a sinner nor were you born one. That's stupid mumbo jumbo. It's easy to control people who already are made out to feel guilty from the time of their birth.
True. If you always felt that you have committed sin, you wouldn't feel happy inside, all always feel guilty.
Exactly. Guilt is the currency christians traffic in.
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Re: What does true love look like?

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Re: What does true love look like?

Post by Kampong Spooner » Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:02 pm

Was watching a 'documentary'last night on the apostles and shit, and it reminded me that THERE IS VIRTUALLY NO HISTORICAL EVIDENCE FOR JESUS AND HIS CREW. Anecdotal, third hand Chinese whispers at best.

At least to Pro'Mo' (P.B.U.H.) was a real person, who like, existed and shit, with plenty of primary sources to back it up. The 'evidence' of western christian traditions seem to be based on visions by 9th century goatherds. 'Oh yeah, God told me John the Apostle was buried here'.

And why, oh why can't they get the dates for Easter settled? It's proper known that Xmas never happened o 25th Dec, but can't some false reasoning be given that Easter at least falls in the same week?

I'm all up for Christian charity and the sort, but it is all remarkably silly. Yet if the good outweighs the bad, I suppose, carry on.
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Re: What does true love look like?

Post by StroppyChops » Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:15 pm

Kampong Spooner wrote:Was watching a 'documentary'last night on the apostles and shit, and it reminded me that THERE IS VIRTUALLY NO HISTORICAL EVIDENCE FOR JESUS AND HIS CREW. Anecdotal, third hand Chinese whispers at best.
That is singularly the most ignorant, uneducated statement I have read on CEO, or on 440 for that matter, and I can only hope you're attention-whoring. There is close to no doubt among secular scholars of the historicity of Jesus Christ, and the non-Biblical accounts of his life are plentiful and from varied sources. Typically those who claim otherwise fall into the same category as holocaust deniers. Given the stupidity of your statements here I doubt you'd believe anything you were told, but here's what REAL atheists say on the matter:

http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum ... -the-bible" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Edit: for clarity, 'close to no doubt' means that the very large majority of secular (that is, non-believing) historians and scholars completely accept the historicity of Jesus Christ.
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Re: What does true love look like?

Post by StroppyChops » Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:16 pm

I watched a couple of the Easter specials on NatGeo and Discovery, and wondered how long it would be before someone cited them here as 'scientific evidence'.
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