Where does the govt draw the line on speech?
Re: Where does the govt draw the line on speech?
It was more of a general comment rather than one directly aimed at you.nerdlinger wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 5:46 amSeriously? The fact that I’m trying to do some research is a bad sign?
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Re: Where does the govt draw the line on speech?
Everyone here is sure to have a different perspective or agenda about this. The people who say "we are all guests" should get back to their beer and shut up. Parents have good reason to speak up, probably anonymously, or from a safe distance.
Ten years ago, even five, Cambodia looked like it was on the right path to become a place of opportunity. It was improving materially, and it looked like it was also becoming more free. It has reversed course dramatically since then, and anyone who really cares should speak up, or it will be seen as tacit approval.
Ten years ago, even five, Cambodia looked like it was on the right path to become a place of opportunity. It was improving materially, and it looked like it was also becoming more free. It has reversed course dramatically since then, and anyone who really cares should speak up, or it will be seen as tacit approval.
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Happy world press freedom day!
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I meant the English language press too. The Phnom Penh Post has turned into a pile of crap and it's hard to believe that the Khmer Times has become one of the main news sources.Phnom Poon wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 6:12 amgovt still don't give much of a crap about these forums
since they have very little influence on khmer attitudes
it's own bubble, stuff rarely if ever originates here to facebook, it's always the other way
and, dare i say, a poor reputation as journalism
even among polite expat society
for actual english language publications it has changed completely
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Re: Where does the govt draw the line on speech?
a/ People are different so it is not unusual that (some) perspectives are not perfectly aligned, or even totally opposed.
It has the potential of creating a (healthy/proper) dialogue, but, alas, that is often not the case.
b/ I am genuinely interested in your point of view why "we are no guests". Your two last words, read sentence above.
There are over 3000 kinds of Belgian beers. Thanks for the nostalgic flash back.
c/ Kinda lost there...parents? In what regard? Maybe I overlooked a post somewhere?
Safe distance, absolutely necessary in these times.
@Irony Man, looking forward to your reply.
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Re: Where does the govt draw the line on speech?
nerdlinger wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 5:29 amThis guy might disagree: https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/04/10/cam ... n-covid-19Spigzy wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 6:54 pm
That's part of the problem though, everyone has an opinion - reporting should be of facts and quotes, the latter being quite dangerous here, but possible if done tactfully. Don't put a quote & then directly call the person quoted a liar for backpeddling on an earlier promise. You can put an old quote, and a new quote side by side & leave the reader to discern that the person is a liar. It isn't management consulting, it's just plain journalism.
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but reporting is of facts, stats & quotes - leave the opinion pieces to those who want to 'cross the line' a la Rainman & chums. I think it's dangerous for journos here to push the envelope like is possible in a western nation; but you'd be hard pushed to 'cross any government line' by simply reporting verifiable facts at face value; even if your facts are 100% correct, but you then go on for one little "and it's all HE's fault!", you're begging for trouble.
Reporter Jailed for Quoting HE on COVID-19
That’s a great example though isn’t it? Yes he quoted the PM, but if taken out of context - I.e. the PM was joking, then reporting it as if the PM said it seriously is going to land you in hot water. So, why post the quote at all? To score petty points. It’s not journalism sorry. I’m not disagreeing that the punishment was overly draconian, but why put yourself out there to be shot over a trivial remark? The PM does like to joke around during his usually very long speeches; I’ve attended a few & the atmosphere can go from serious to jovial and back to serious very quickly.
I do get the point that it is backwards and hard here for journos; I guess my opinion, and it is just that, is that they can make things a lot easier for themselves whilst still reporting the key points. I just see so many going all out for attention points on top of the journalism which is where they come unstuck. Keep it simple & uncontroversial.
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Re: Where does the govt draw the line on speech?
We are guests here, and we chose to come here (I don’t imagine there are many, if any expats who are here against their will) we should assimilate and integrate, it’s not our place to be telling Cambodians how to run their own country. Accept it for what it is/becomes or, if a person thinks it’s so bad here, they’re welcome to leave, go somewhere else (not being Cambodian gives them that luxury) I think any government should be telling “guests” in their country exactly that.Irony Man wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 8:40 am Everyone here is sure to have a different perspective or agenda about this. The people who say "we are all guests" should get back to their beer and shut up. Parents have good reason to speak up, probably anonymously, or from a safe distance.
Ten years ago, even five, Cambodia looked like it was on the right path to become a place of opportunity. It was improving materially, and it looked like it was also becoming more free. It has reversed course dramatically since then, and anyone who really cares should speak up, or it will be seen as tacit approval.
The UK has for too long been pandering to the whims of “guests” who have no affinity, no desire to integrate and no affection for the British and Britain’s culture, they demand and expect changes to be made to suit them, the government (in its wisdom?) caves in to their demands and the country is the worse for it.
Why do people choose to move to a country that they dislike so much about? Most of whom bitch because it’s not like the country they left behind ffs.
They should be told politely “ if you don’t like it here, then fuck off somewhere else” and that includes us.
Re: Where does the govt draw the line on speech?
ខ្ញុំគិតថាលោកស្ទាត់ជំនាញនិយាយភាសារខ្មែរChad Sexington wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 7:13 pmWe are guests here, and we chose to come here (I don’t imagine there are many, if any expats who are here against their will) we should assimilate and integrate, it’s not our place to be telling Cambodians how to run their own country. Accept it for what it is/becomes or, if a person thinks it’s so bad here, they’re welcome to leave, go somewhere else (not being Cambodian gives them that luxury) I think any government should be telling “guests” in their country exactly that.Irony Man wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 8:40 am Everyone here is sure to have a different perspective or agenda about this. The people who say "we are all guests" should get back to their beer and shut up. Parents have good reason to speak up, probably anonymously, or from a safe distance.
Ten years ago, even five, Cambodia looked like it was on the right path to become a place of opportunity. It was improving materially, and it looked like it was also becoming more free. It has reversed course dramatically since then, and anyone who really cares should speak up, or it will be seen as tacit approval.
The UK has for too long been pandering to the whims of “guests” who have no affinity, no desire to integrate and no affection for the British and Britain’s culture, they demand and expect changes to be made to suit them, the government (in its wisdom?) caves in to their demands and the country is the worse for it.
Why do people choose to move to a country that they dislike so much about? Most of whom bitch because it’s not like the country they left behind ffs.
They should be told politely “ if you don’t like it here, then fuck off somewhere else” and that includes us.
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Re: Where does the govt draw the line on speech?
National borders?
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Don't try and rope me in to your little game.
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Re: Where does the govt draw the line on speech?
Freedom is an illusion in western countries covid-19 has really showed us this.
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