These People Were Arrested by the Khmer Rouge and Never Seen Again

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Apollo91881 wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:10 am
Kammekor wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:56 am
Apollo91881 wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:48 am Cancel culture or accountability ... it's so hard to be an asshole these days without being held responsible for one's actions
Well, the guys was held accountable, wasn't he, he received a lot of flak. And rightly so.

So cancelling this story is the solution? Problem solved now?
Only if people don't learn from it. Are you more or less inclined to post something offensive without thinking about the consequences? How about Vice news?
I believe in freedom, and freedom includes the right of posting offensive or stupid things. And if you do so you might receive flak, criticism, and rightly so. But what you consider offensive, might not be experienced as offensive by others. I, for instance, find this posting from an offended person offensive:

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I haven't asked twitter to remove it.
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I think this was totally blown out of proportion. He was asked by the family members to edit these photos...


I love how people feel the need to mention his gender and race. *Rolls eyes*
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well documented and researched

An artist has caused uproar and anguish after photoshopping smiles onto the faces of inmates photographed at notorious Khmer Rouge prison camp Tuol Sleng. Here, the brother of Khva Leang, incorrectly labelled as Bora in the piece, tells the true story of his long-lost kin

This is the ORIGINAL photo, not colorized, edited::
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Though Leang’s image was among the few that had remained unchanged beyond being colourised, Senyint was no less disturbed upon seeing his brother’s portrait and the brief biography that accompanied it. That’s because every detail about him, even down to his name, was incorrect.

“I was disappointed that they gave the wrong information, so I wrote to Lydia [my daughter] that I wish they would know the real information about this brother,” he said. “My brother number three.”
Loughrey declined comment to Globe about the criticism of his work, but has elsewhere dismissed allegations of falsifying history as “nonsense”. He claims alterations were made at the request of families, being quoted in the original Vice article as saying he had worked on Leang’s portrait in particular at the request of the man’s son. Vice referred the Globe to a disclaimer on the article stating its contents were under review, with the article since pulled down.
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https://southeastasiaglobe.com/colouris ... ng-photos/
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Kammekor wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:20 am
Apollo91881 wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:10 am
Kammekor wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:56 am
Apollo91881 wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:48 am Cancel culture or accountability ... it's so hard to be an asshole these days without being held responsible for one's actions
Well, the guys was held accountable, wasn't he, he received a lot of flak. And rightly so.

So cancelling this story is the solution? Problem solved now?
Only if people don't learn from it. Are you more or less inclined to post something offensive without thinking about the consequences? How about Vice news?
I believe in freedom, and freedom includes the right of posting offensive or stupid things. And if you do so you might receive flak, criticism, and rightly so. But what you consider offensive, might not be experienced as offensive by others. I, for instance, find this posting from an offended person offensive:

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I haven't asked twitter to remove it.
Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. Rights come with responsibilities.
Same shit different day.
People need to quit crying cancel culture because dumb people do dumb shit and have to come to terms with the consequences.
Can't have it both ways. Such is life.
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What was he thinking when he tastelessly doctored those images of genocide victims? That it would propel him to fame (as opposed to infamy)? He put himself in this invidious position and he now has to wriggle his way out of it as diplomatically and humbly as possible. Deleting his social media accounts and going on ignore mode will not appease Cambodians.
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ergosemper wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:55 pm What was he thinking when he tastelessly doctored those images of genocide victims? That it would propel him to fame (as opposed to infamy)? He put himself in this invidious position and he now has to wriggle his way out of it as diplomatically and humbly as possible. Deleting his social media accounts and going on ignore mode will not appease Cambodians.
He lives in the west of Ireland; I doubt this affair will cause him more than these few days of infamy, and the images are now gone from vice

Bad taste, yeah

A crime? Maybe not.

Probably he should make an unreserved apology to the families whose deceased members images he altered without permission and draw a line under it
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phuketrichard wrote:well documented and researched

An artist has caused uproar and anguish after photoshopping smiles onto the faces of inmates photographed at notorious Khmer Rouge prison camp Tuol Sleng. Here, the brother of Khva Leang, incorrectly labelled as Bora in the piece, tells the true story of his long-lost kin

This is the ORIGINAL photo, not colorized, edited::
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Though Leang’s image was among the few that had remained unchanged beyond being colourised, Senyint was no less disturbed upon seeing his brother’s portrait and the brief biography that accompanied it. That’s because every detail about him, even down to his name, was incorrect.

“I was disappointed that they gave the wrong information, so I wrote to Lydia [my daughter] that I wish they would know the real information about this brother,” he said. “My brother number three.”
Loughrey declined comment to Globe about the criticism of his work, but has elsewhere dismissed allegations of falsifying history as “nonsense”. He claims alterations were made at the request of families, being quoted in the original Vice article as saying he had worked on Leang’s portrait in particular at the request of the man’s son. Vice referred the Globe to a disclaimer on the article stating its contents were under review, with the article since pulled down.
Lies, lies lies

https://southeastasiaglobe.com/colouris ... ng-photos/
If true then he should apologize. I was under the impression he was working directly with TS and had been asked by the respective families to do so (as pet the above message). It's not uncommon for locals to get modified photoshopped pictures of their deceased loved ones. Not sure what to believe now.
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Apollo91881 wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:43 am
Kammekor wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:20 am
Apollo91881 wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:10 am
Kammekor wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:56 am
Apollo91881 wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:48 am Cancel culture or accountability ... it's so hard to be an asshole these days without being held responsible for one's actions
Well, the guys was held accountable, wasn't he, he received a lot of flak. And rightly so.

So cancelling this story is the solution? Problem solved now?
Only if people don't learn from it. Are you more or less inclined to post something offensive without thinking about the consequences? How about Vice news?
I believe in freedom, and freedom includes the right of posting offensive or stupid things. And if you do so you might receive flak, criticism, and rightly so. But what you consider offensive, might not be experienced as offensive by others. I, for instance, find this posting from an offended person offensive:

Image

I haven't asked twitter to remove it.
Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. Rights come with responsibilities.
Same shit different day.
People need to quit crying cancel culture because dumb people do dumb shit and have to come to terms with the consequences.
Can't have it both ways. Such is life.
Yes, freedom comes with responsibilities and consequences. I wholeheartedly agree.

But cancelling an article because there's a fuss on social media isn't the solution.
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atst wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:21 pm Would it be any less offensive it it was a colored female artist?
Yes. Why is it significant that it was a white male?
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lagrange wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:46 pm
atst wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:21 pm Would it be any less offensive it it was a colored female artist?
Yes. Why is it significant that it was a white male?
Not a whole lot, but he made all the prisoners he colorized look very white.
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