Cooldude wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:29 pm Guy shouldn't have brought a knife to a gunfight.

lostjeremy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:17 am Video here....

It obviously appears to be self defense.

rubberbaron wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:46 pm I don't know what you guys saw. The guy with the knife wasn't in the picture when the guard was pointing his gun at him, meaning there were at least 2 to 3m between them. In the video the knifer assaulted the guard after being shot. He probably threatened the guard before. In my book this is poor judgment on the guard's part. There were 2 other guys nearby, 3 chairs, maybe enough to fend off the attacker with a knife? How about a warning shot in the air first, then a shot at the legs? No training, that's the backstory to this. Manslaughter in the western world?

LoukBongThom wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:02 pm

rubberbaron wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:46 pm I don't know what you guys saw. The guy with the knife wasn't in the picture when the guard was pointing his gun at him, meaning there were at least 2 to 3m between them. In the video the knifer assaulted the guard after being shot. He probably threatened the guard before. In my book this is poor judgment on the guard's part. There were 2 other guys nearby, 3 chairs, maybe enough to fend off the attacker with a knife? How about a warning shot in the air first, then a shot at the legs? No training, that's the backstory to this. Manslaughter in the western world?

Not sure if you watched both videos. Putting both videos together to get fuller picture. No way for a warning shot where the other guy is within a few meters away, charging at full speed with a knife. Still a self-defense case in the western world.

rogerrabbit wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:43 pm

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:50 pm

rubberbaron wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:36 pm

jaynewcastle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:24 am
A warning shot in the air, seriously ?, when your life is in danger & you're probably terrified, you put the attacker down straight away & stop the threat, its not a movie or tv show where you can piss about reading out human rights rubbish & appealing to their better nature first, before shooting them in the knee etc lol, its real life

Being terrified might apply you but this guard was a moonlighting cop. Cops even in Cambodia are trained to fire a warning shot first. Having a gun in your hand gives you the upper hand versus a knife-wielding attacker. He was just another sorry example of the cops here. Moot now anyway, as he was released based on self-defense.

Human rights rubbish? Let's hope you won't ever get into a situation like this where you shot a man dead or caused the death of a person here - in self-defense or by accident. You remember the accident in which a Russian killed two people on a motorbike because he swerved into the oncoming lane. The drunk village police chief shot out of an alley onto the main road which the Russian tried to avoid? At 9 am in the morning.

Warning shot theory is bollox; most armed police nowdays are trained that

- warning shots can hit or kill innocent people or incite suspect to escalate their attack
- they are trained to shoot for the centre of mass - torso, not shoot knees, hands or other made for TV bollox
- and they are also trained to shoot until suspect is down, no pitty patty stuff

And your strawman about a traffic accident is just that, it's not relevant here

Warning shots are not really a thing in 2000s anymore, that is true. But in what country police is trained to shoot centre of torso as many times as suspect is down in this kind of situation? My guess UK or USA? Any country where police gets a proper training that is not the case. Though I come from country where police has killed one person in last 20 years.

Chad Sexington wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:56 pm

rogerrabbit wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:43 pm

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:50 pm

rubberbaron wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:36 pm

jaynewcastle wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:24 am
A warning shot in the air, seriously ?, when your life is in danger & you're probably terrified, you put the attacker down straight away & stop the threat, its not a movie or tv show where you can piss about reading out human rights rubbish & appealing to their better nature first, before shooting them in the knee etc lol, its real life

Being terrified might apply you but this guard was a moonlighting cop. Cops even in Cambodia are trained to fire a warning shot first. Having a gun in your hand gives you the upper hand versus a knife-wielding attacker. He was just another sorry example of the cops here. Moot now anyway, as he was released based on self-defense.

Human rights rubbish? Let's hope you won't ever get into a situation like this where you shot a man dead or caused the death of a person here - in self-defense or by accident. You remember the accident in which a Russian killed two people on a motorbike because he swerved into the oncoming lane. The drunk village police chief shot out of an alley onto the main road which the Russian tried to avoid? At 9 am in the morning.

Warning shot theory is bollox; most armed police nowdays are trained that

- warning shots can hit or kill innocent people or incite suspect to escalate their attack
- they are trained to shoot for the centre of mass - torso, not shoot knees, hands or other made for TV bollox
- and they are also trained to shoot until suspect is down, no pitty patty stuff

And your strawman about a traffic accident is just that, it's not relevant here

Warning shots are not really a thing in 2000s anymore, that is true. But in what country police is trained to shoot centre of torso as many times as suspect is down in this kind of situation? My guess UK or USA? Any country where police gets a proper training that is not the case. Though I come from country where police has killed one person in last 20 years.

Yeah, the cops should be trained to shoot the knife out of his hand, and to then keep shooting the knife so that it keeps spinning out of the reach of the bad guy as he tries to pick it up.
Maybe they could shoot at the ground near the the bad guys feet, making him “dance” as the dirt flies.
Fuckers who’ve never held a gun, never mind fired one are obviously the best people to advise on how to deal with a murderous armed criminal.

rogerrabbit wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:05 pm

Chad Sexington wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:56 pm

rogerrabbit wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:43 pm

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:50 pm

rubberbaron wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:36 pm

Being terrified might apply you but this guard was a moonlighting cop. Cops even in Cambodia are trained to fire a warning shot first. Having a gun in your hand gives you the upper hand versus a knife-wielding attacker. He was just another sorry example of the cops here. Moot now anyway, as he was released based on self-defense.

Human rights rubbish? Let's hope you won't ever get into a situation like this where you shot a man dead or caused the death of a person here - in self-defense or by accident. You remember the accident in which a Russian killed two people on a motorbike because he swerved into the oncoming lane. The drunk village police chief shot out of an alley onto the main road which the Russian tried to avoid? At 9 am in the morning.

Warning shot theory is bollox; most armed police nowdays are trained that

- warning shots can hit or kill innocent people or incite suspect to escalate their attack
- they are trained to shoot for the centre of mass - torso, not shoot knees, hands or other made for TV bollox
- and they are also trained to shoot until suspect is down, no pitty patty stuff

And your strawman about a traffic accident is just that, it's not relevant here

Warning shots are not really a thing in 2000s anymore, that is true. But in what country police is trained to shoot centre of torso as many times as suspect is down in this kind of situation? My guess UK or USA? Any country where police gets a proper training that is not the case. Though I come from country where police has killed one person in last 20 years.

Yeah, the cops should be trained to shoot the knife out of his hand, and to then keep shooting the knife so that it keeps spinning out of the reach of the bad guy as he tries to pick it up.
Maybe they could shoot at the ground near the the bad guys feet, making him “dance” as the dirt flies.
Fuckers who’ve never held a gun, never mind fired one are obviously the best people to advise on how to deal with a murderous armed criminal.

If you are talking about me, I was in army and received military police training so I have some knowledge about how to deal aggressive people, and when and how to fire a gun.