Phnom Poon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:03 pm the 'longer time horizon' thing is i think the same as the 'marshmallow test'
but i think that has been partially debunked now, and trust is a deciding factor, not just foresight/willpower, etc

Ultimately, the new study finds limited support for the idea that being able to delay gratification leads to better outcomes. Instead, it suggests that the capacity to hold out for a second marshmallow is shaped in large part by a child’s social and economic background—and, in turn, that that background, not the ability to delay gratification, is what’s behind kids’ long-term success.

The Harvard economist Sendhil Mullainathan and the Princeton behavioral scientist Eldar Shafir wrote a book in 2013, Scarcity: Why Having Too Little Means So Much, that detailed how poverty can lead people to opt for short-term rather than long-term rewards; the state of not having enough can change the way people think about what’s available now. In other words, a second marshmallow seems irrelevant when a child has reason to believe that the first one might vanish.

Kuroneko wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:06 pm

Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:52 pm All this talk about IQ, and not a whisper about EQ, which is arguably more important

I totally agree EQ is far more important

siliconlife wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:23 am

Doc67 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:56 am
EQ? Here's a whisper...

Worrying about people emotions is what is turning the west into a pathetic bunch of cry babies, complaining about being scared of everything, being offended by everything - often by proxy by the activists - demanding the right to feel 'safe' (impossible if you're a spineless coward) and the so called mental health crisis.

Let's put EQ into perspective in the case of Cambodia. If a lot of the blokes here had higher EQs (ie. ability to manage their emotions), they'd be less prone to substance abuse, and less likely to commit revenge killings, burning of houses, random beheadings of babies etc etc. Emotional education is vital, and very much worth worrying about, pulling your hair out over sometimes tbh. The old "man up" attitude is reactionary.

suicide rates among 15-24 year olds have increased from 6 per 100,000 in 1921-25 to 16 per 100,000 in 1996-98

IraHayes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:58 am

siliconlife wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:23 am

Doc67 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:56 am
EQ? Here's a whisper...

Worrying about people emotions is what is turning the west into a pathetic bunch of cry babies, complaining about being scared of everything, being offended by everything - often by proxy by the activists - demanding the right to feel 'safe' (impossible if you're a spineless coward) and the so called mental health crisis.

Let's put EQ into perspective in the case of Cambodia. If a lot of the blokes here had higher EQs (ie. ability to manage their emotions), they'd be less prone to substance abuse, and less likely to commit revenge killings, burning of houses, random beheadings of babies etc etc. Emotional education is vital, and very much worth worrying about, pulling your hair out over sometimes tbh. The old "man up" attitude is reactionary.

You mean like Australia? Where I think we can agree that people have much better control of their emotions than 100 years ago.
But, it seems negative trends in psychosocial behavior, such as drug use and suicide, have increased substantially along with higher EQs
According to a report into "SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF DRUG USE" by the University of New South Wales in 2004 noted that:

suicide rates among 15-24 year olds have increased from 6 per 100,000 in 1921-25 to 16 per 100,000 in 1996-98

Doc67 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:09 am

IraHayes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:58 am

siliconlife wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:23 am

Doc67 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 6:56 am
EQ? Here's a whisper...

Worrying about people emotions is what is turning the west into a pathetic bunch of cry babies, complaining about being scared of everything, being offended by everything - often by proxy by the activists - demanding the right to feel 'safe' (impossible if you're a spineless coward) and the so called mental health crisis.

Let's put EQ into perspective in the case of Cambodia. If a lot of the blokes here had higher EQs (ie. ability to manage their emotions), they'd be less prone to substance abuse, and less likely to commit revenge killings, burning of houses, random beheadings of babies etc etc. Emotional education is vital, and very much worth worrying about, pulling your hair out over sometimes tbh. The old "man up" attitude is reactionary.

You mean like Australia? Where I think we can agree that people have much better control of their emotions than 100 years ago.
But, it seems negative trends in psychosocial behavior, such as drug use and suicide, have increased substantially along with higher EQs
According to a report into "SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF DRUG USE" by the University of New South Wales in 2004 noted that:

suicide rates among 15-24 year olds have increased from 6 per 100,000 in 1921-25 to 16 per 100,000 in 1996-98

Those extra 10 per 100,000 is negligible and anyway, wars and disease got plenty more of them back then.

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