Year now and we're still locked down like prisoners.... I just don't understand why the powers that be can't figure out how to purchase/distribute the bloody vaccine quickly so life can get back to some semblance or "normal"... Boris J mucked stuff up early on but has drastically turned the corner in getting UK vaccinated... USA is finally getting it's crap together... BB is rocking out the vaccination...

Then you have the peeps that make you go huh??? Looking at you Germ, Fran, Thai, Sugah... Not a sophisticated eco/soc analysis but if BB dropped massive $$$ to purchase the vac and distributed the heck out of it to it's peeps... now implementing the app to allow peeps to go about normalcy.... The approach imo is awesome bc you either pay in the front end or pay in the backend e.g. loans/handouts to failing biz..

Sort of common sense, spend a crap load up front is better than spending a crap load on the backend through handouts... the privacy thing is sort of nonsense bc the ask is would you rather lockdown for 2-5 years or would you prefer the right to choose to get vaccinated and live a somewhat normal life.... society will never get back the 1 year locked down.... im sure if you quantify the value it would be agagillion...

Can't figure out why there is such a delay in certain places ... Is it because of the monetization of local distribution of the vaccine??? It just doesn't make sense bc you have industries hemorrhaging massive amounts of $$$ - case in point airline company losing 5 bil.... crap is crazy... Buy the vac and stick it to peeps!!!!

my apologies for the rant.... just sik of the lockdown and total nonsense.... wonder where i can get a refund for this year ???

Maybe the larger western societies have become too big and too complex to function at their best?
That is one thing that Covid has really highlighted, i reckon.

All of the different aspects of Covid have demanded a really good execution - one that you can't fudge.
And this is just not happening in the larger Free nations.

This is not taking a shot. I genuinely wonder if the complexities of organising our modern free societies have outgrown our ability to manage them. ??
That is what the (excellent) OP ^^^ says to me - and seeing nearly everything else that has happened around Covid.

'Easy in a dictatorship or one party state of course, but i ain't recommending that.

Jcml19 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:41 pm
Sort of common sense, spend a crap load up front is better than spending a crap load on the backend through handouts... the privacy thing is sort of nonsense bc the ask is would you rather lockdown for 2-5 years or would you prefer the right to choose to get vaccinated and live a somewhat normal life.... society will never get back the 1 year locked down.... im sure if you quantify the value it would be agagillion...

There won't be "normal life" anymore, the vaccine won't change that.

John Bingham wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:21 am

Jcml19 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:41 pm Year now and we're still locked down like prisoners....

You seem to be looking at this from an alien perspective. You're obviously not in Cambodia so where are you and why do you think this is relevant to us?

Boris= UK. Lockdown=UK.
At a guess, OP is dreaming of leaving for Cambodia, but cannot ?

Jcml19 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:41 pm Not a sophisticated eco/soc analysis but if BB dropped massive $$$ to purchase the vac and distributed the heck out of it to it's peeps...

This seems predicated on the idea that there’s a vaccine factory sat idle because they haven’t had enough orders in.

The countries getting their vaccines quickly are the ones making it themselves or that collaborated on phase 3 testing.

Username Taken wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:12 am Who is BB?

I think he means Benjamin Netanyahu, aka Bibi.

His writing style gives me a headache.