North Korea - a silent threat ?

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North Korea a silent threat ?
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Trump called Kim Jong Un the Rocket Man but loved him. Kim got nothing but sanctions and nothing in return so why change NK Foreign Politics against it's adversaries ? The sanctions agains NK never really worked. China and Russia have reasons to keep the US off it's borders. The situation is pretty much the same that we have with Ukraine etc. To starve the country therefore also doesn't work. Let's hope the Biden Administration shows more Brain and Wisdom than previous Democrat Presidents excercised. It's unlikely the US will dramatically change course against China, Russia, North Korea and Iran for that matter. Does this mean we are still stearing towards the decades long planned "Future War with China" which in my opinion would draw all the forementioned nations into the conflict and has the potential for an all out WWIII.
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With his hands full from day one as the new President Biden will have one of the most challenging job any US President ever had. The US at the brink of a civil war, a military that eats up most of the Budget and alianated Allies the last thing the US needs is a war.

North Korea just displayed what it has in it's arsenal. That doesn't bother the US Pentagon much but should worry us Expats here in Cambodia because IF IF a real War starts it will likely start in the South China Sea. Than we can kiss all our plans good bye.
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"...the decades long planned "Future War with China" "
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I've never really thought of North Korea as a silent threat, but rather a noisy one, which doesn't care a bit about anyone's plans.

If the potential of a South China Sea war keeps you up at night, there might be safer, less anxiety inducing places to live than Cambodia. I'd start with distant, isolated islands like Fiji, Solomon Islands, or even Tonga. No missiles, no COVID.
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The future War with China This term was used over and over again for decades by the media in the US and around the world.
John Pilger explains
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techietraveller84 wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:48 am I've never really thought of North Korea as a silent threat, but rather a noisy one, which doesn't care a bit about anyone's plans.

....Fiji, Solomon Islands, or even Tonga. No missiles
Agree about NK, TechNo.
Second bit is spot on - except it is already happening.

Yeah no missiles.
While we jump up and down about NK, China has slipped in the back door economically, politically and physically.
USA abandoned the Western Pacific field, Australia suddenly got all arrogant towards them and turned Aid into "Investment".
That's where NZ pulls so far above it's weight division in holding the western Pacific for the West - by genuine friendship, strong relationships and actual assistance.

Thankfully, both the Yanks and Aust seem to be reawakening from their sleepiness and neglect at long last - 'impossible to avoid staring China in the face on the main street of downtown Suva every morning. ALLready!
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Thanks Emm. Yeah yeah, i know the term.
Just highlighting that the term is a bit of "thing" - in some circles. Almost an assumption.
A very dangerous, possibly self fulfilling assumption if it is not spotlighted as just that - "a thing in some circles" .
A possibility sure - but definitely not to be assumed as fate.

For those who are "true believers" and maybe a bit out of touch with feelings in the region
- there is not one SEA or W Pacific nation that regards this is inevitable. In fact they are doing their utmost to ensure it does not head in that direction.
that doesn't mean they are not preparing for the possibility

(I might watch Pilger later, but probably not.
I appreciated his early investigation work, and his highlighting of some terrible events - but i haven't seen any ground-breaking work like that for decades. eg, his commentary around the time of the KR trials was just reliving the glory days of his fab work here last century.
Sadly, i reckon he has turned into more of a stale old polemicist than a crusading journalist. I hate that.)
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If a War like that will start in earnest no place on this planet will be safe. ....Fiji, Solomon Islands, or even Tonga. No missiles ?? Perhaps today but that can change in a moment. Remember WWII the entire Pacific became a War Zone. North Korea is NOT China but could be the tinderbox to draw it's neighbors into war. In that respect one would have to look at how the Vietnam War was started with the Tonkin Incident.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident
US Militaries have discussed this kind of szenario since years.
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In a massive war, chances are that islands located long distances from the action will be significantly safer than other places.
Surely, no place would be completely unaffected, but proximity definitely matters.
As long as food and medicine supplies are sufficient (another major challenge), distant isolation might not be so bad.
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Emm, you seem to be making the fatal mistake
You are stuck on the War thing.
It is as outdated and out of place in this part of the world as The Maginot Line and the British 15 inch guns facing the wrong way in Singapore.

FFs, that is why we have ignored the silent invasion for the past 20 years.
They have almost already won large parts of the free world and large parts of our own countries.

My prediction - not a shot will be fired. especially in SEA and Oceania.
It won't be necessary. We will just wake up one morning and realise the new bloke is totally in charge.

...unless we pull our trigger finger out of our bums and start tapping our brain cells instead.
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emm wrote:The US at the brink of a civil war, a military that eats up most of the Budget and alianated Allies the last thing the US needs is a war.
The US at the brink of a civil war? Has the Bastille been stormed? Harper’s Ferry National Armory been ransacked? Canons been fired at Fort Sumter? 600,000 Tutsi’s been slaughtered recently?

Military eats up most of the Budget?

https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-federal ... wn-3305789

US Budget 4.8 trillion. Entitlement and welfare programs $3 trillion, or 60% of the budget. Military $600 billion, including $230 billion for Homeland Security, the State Department (US Embassy), and Veterans Affairs. Servicing the debt, is $378 billion. So how does the military eat up most of the budget?

No one wants war. Just ask the leaders of British and France who handed Czechoslovakia to Hitler to appease allies and avoid war by having ‘Peace in Our Time’. It took a world in flames to undo that action.

The North Korean invasion will be a major distraction when the war comes. Cambodia will also be encouraged to settle old debts as well. The People’s
Republic China plays to win.

The islanders living in the Solomon Islands thought they were safe and then their land became part of the struggle of a World War. Midway was a island of goonie birds. Anywhere can become a major battlefield in war.
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