Brody wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:31 am

Jamie_Lambo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:21 am again dont see how

As in if a non native English speaker was learning and didn't have the background context to the word.

US words tend to be more singular in meaning, ie.......pacifier.........vs dummy? Dummy means stupid as well as a mock-up item where I'm from.........whereas pacifier has a singular meaning.

Same with rubber and eraser

Anyway these discussions never end well.......to each his own......you keep your rubber and I'll be content with eraser.

Cooldude wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:49 am You will soon get bored of having to bicker about the extortionate price every single time you take a tuk tuk or get a xe om. You don't want that.

I've used Grab in Saigon and Vung Tau and use Passapp on an almost daily basis here in Phnom Penh. Always know what the price was/is before confirming the pickup. Sometimes can't believe how cheap it is.

clutchcargo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:33 am

I do wonder how this thread might have gone with a glass half full topic such as ''The advantages of riding a moto?". Would the discussion outcome have been the same? Just a thought..

whatwat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:17 pm When I PassApp I never get in one of those silly Bajaj Indian things. Can’t see anything, cramped, uncomfortable and hot.

Normal tuk tuk every time.

mangorice wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:40 am

atst wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:10 pm

mangorice wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:58 pm

HappyChappy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:24 am

Alright, two things here. No riding experience. Poor spatial awareness.

Sorry, the traffic is too complex for you. I don't think it is wise for you to start riding without any proper training.

You can't say that, you don't know the opp his maturity etc, I had never riden a bike till being in Cambodia, first time riding in PP was 3 up on a scoopy no worry's just follow the traffic, after 19,000 klm around most of Cambodia mostly with two up and luggage on a over 125 cc bike yes had some close calls but at low speed could stop and avoid, I would never ride a bike in Australia the traffic is far to fast and idiots applenty
It's a whole lot safer than taxis touk touks in my opinion, never have I needed to close my eyes and prey when on my bike, unlike being in taxis and buses here.
I class myself as a shit bike rider to be honest but would rather ride my bike than take public transport

I wrote based on the information he gave. He stated he has no riding experience and has poor spatial awareness.
Everyone has different learning ability and how they react to unexpected incidents and close calls when it comes to riding a motorbike.
Can he swerve around safely and flexibly? Can he brake on reflex if something happens? Does he have enough road experience to know how to respond accordingly?

Maturity may play a part but it plays a small part because we don't know how he will react to unexpected incidents that may result in close calls or a trip to the hospital.

Additionally it depends on where he rides. Some areas of PP is not safe for newbies.

Lastly does he have accident/hospital insurance in case something went wrong?

Whatever the case, it is clear he is making a very risky decision.

Khmu Nation wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:54 am

mangorice wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:43 am

Khmu Nation wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:33 am Ignore the doomsayers. Get an automatic scooter, low cc and go for it.

The first time I ever rode a scooter, or had ever been on one in fact, was in Hanoi. The day after I first went on it I drove it all the way to Saigon.

That was a decade and a half ago and I have been driving them ever since, mostly in Saigon. I have had an accident yes. But that was entirely my own fault and took place on an empty provincial road.

You need a motorcycle or a scooter. The pavements aren't really walkable and you can't always be getting tuk tuks, xe om, grab bikes, Uber and all that.

You will soon get bored of having to bicker about the extortionate price every single time you take a tuk tuk or get a xe om. You don't want that.

Get a scooter. Be vigilant. Give it a go.

It's PP, not Saigon. Traffic are much more crazier than Saigon. PP have drivers who dont obey the rules, questionable military guys pulling out their pistols and drunk speeding Chinese drivers.

The motorbike accident death rate is higher in Vietnam.

But yeah OP don't ever get a motorcycle. And while you are at it only eat western food you don't want to get sick mate so I urge you only shop at the big western supermarket where you will be able to buy Marmite and ready made yummy Shepherds Pie

Don't bother learning the language either, watch the football every week and of course even though you have made zero effort to assimilate and don't have a single khmer friend or acquaintance (the only only ones you know are bar girls) always grumble about how the place ain't what it was and of course always kick off about being over charged on anything. Demand local rates - especially with tuk tuks as you will be using them several times a day.