The Coming Global Backlash against China

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The West has made China what it is today. If we had not allowed ourselves to become so dependent on the cheap goods, cheap labour and cheap credit that China has so expertly tempted us with, things would be very different.
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Until Xi took over in 2012, I think a lot of people really believed that China was opening up and moving in a positive direction. Had Xi not taken power, perhaps Hong Kong would still be a beacon of freedom and prosperity, China would be charming its neighbors instead of swelling against them, and COVID would have remained hidden away in a bat cave.
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techietraveller84 wrote:Until Xi took over in 2012, I think a lot of people really believed that China was opening up and moving in a positive direction. Had Xi not taken power, perhaps Hong Kong would still be a beacon of freedom and prosperity, China would be charming its neighbors instead of swelling against them, and COVID would have remained hidden away in a bat cave.
Xi undid everything Deng did in opening up the country. He wants to create a cult revolving around him. Like the emperors of old. Or Mao. Or Stalin. Or Hitler.

However, they both believed in the righteousness of the socialism of the people (aka Communism). Deng simple stated that being a good socialist doesn’t equal to starvation.

Hong Kong (and most of the west) is incompatible to this thinking.

Anyways the economic boom of the one child policy will fade in a few decades. President Xi will have to make good on his promises before then.

The Taiping rebellion was led by the Chinese brothers of Jesus Christ for over a decade. And then was put down savagely.

Mao succeeded because of the incredibly corrupt Nationalist government and strong backing from the Soviet Union, and tacit approval from the US who forced the two to work together to fight the Japanese.
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China was country of the peasants in the 70-80s. Than western neoliberalists moved manufacturing to China in a gasp for more profits which resulted in millions of lost jobs in the west and opportunity for China to rise. And now those same people are shouting: China is your enemy!
Free market was ok when USA and the west had advantage of it, now when China is economic and science giant is dangerous for national security? China just copied what Uncle Sam is doing around the world. US uses the strength of the world’s reserve currency, the dollar, for geo-economic blackmail. Why sanction against European companies who are involved in completion of Nord Stream 2 Baltic Sea pipeline? Because EU want to buy cheaper Russian oil instead of overpriced American? Tariffs on Airbus? Doesnt American government subsidies Boeing as well? USA is your friend only if they profit from you, they are not selective with allies. If you buy their arms (like lighthouse of democracy Saudi Arabia) you good. They are "locked and loaded" to protect you.
China is giant now and its to late. You cant subdue 4000 years old civilization which was based on self discipline, comradeship. But it will collapse from it self, western consumerism plague will cut into the pores of China"s society as well. Climate changes, environmental pollution, viruses.... you name it.
I am not buying "If you not with us, you against us" bullshit. I will try to live easy life until armageddon, but one is sure. It will not be China, nor in the USA.

Interesting documentary about Huawei, why USA is lobbying against accusing them without any proves. Meanwhile we still waiting for evidence of Saddam"s WMD. :lol:

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