Greta's latest missive to the world's leaders and particularly to the younger half of the planet's population, on the eve of the next UN climate summit.

An abbreviated 4 line summary for those that don't have 3 minutes for the vid..

- “We are still speeding in the wrong direction,”
- "Leaders should be telling the truth: that we are facing an emergency and we are not doing nearly enough."
- “When it comes to the immediate action we need, we are still in a state of complete denial, as we waste our time, creating new loopholes with empty words and creative accounting.”
- "For me, the hope lies in democracy – it is the people who have the power."

Which part of what she says is not correct?


or all true?

SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:07 am Greta's latest missive to the world's leaders and particularly to the younger half of the planet's population, on the eve of the next UN climate summit.

An abbreviated 4 line summary for those that don't have 3 minutes for the vid..

- “We are still speeding in the wrong direction,”
- "Leaders should be telling the truth: that we are facing an emergency and we are not doing nearly enough."
- “When it comes to the immediate action we need, we are still in a state of complete denial, as we waste our time, creating new loopholes with empty words and creative accounting.”
- "For me, the hope lies in democracy – it is the people who have the power."

Which part of what she says is not correct?


or all true?

I'm quite happy to give up my mobile phone Greta are you?

#0.36 in the video you see a truck being loaded with timber. Is that a bad thing?
If we want to save the Planet we need to manage the forest, we need to reconnect with nature.The forest is a great provider, do not be scared of utilising it sustainably. I grew up in a time, like many others in this forum when everything was made of wood. Rulers and protractors etc. If we want to get away from plastics we need to get back on the land. She means well Greta but she is short-sighted.


Ps if the people were ever silly enough to vote me into power I would allow citizens to only purchase a car once in their life and it would be their duty to maintain it if they want to keep it. Reduction is the key.
Eventually we have to get back to making cars from wood

Perhaps she’s 100% spot on. The next question is, what should we do??

Greta outlines the next steps we should make on her webpage: http://gretathunberg.com/

Advice for Mayors:

Follow these steps and you will be re-elected year after year, your city will actually run at a profit and your citizens will love you for it.

Ignore these steps and it's likely all life will go extinct in well under a decade, perhaps just a few years.

First, if you don't believe or don't understand that we are likely to go extinct in well under a decade, perhaps just a few years watch this 45 minute video.
Until you know the harsh truth you won't know how quickly we need to get busy and be effective.

Second, if you want to run a profitable city that enjoys 100% free electricity, free fuel, free water and pays every citizen a $1,000 - $5,000 UBI and provides jobs that pay $25 - $50 per hour:
Watch this 3 minute video. It explains how even GOP Cities can profit from GreenTech, and then;
Either send a request to my TWITTER account, or contact an engineer via Skype.
MAKE A SKYPE CALL TO AN ENGINEER TODAY.

Next, after your first call with an engineer who can explain the various revenue streams to ensure your city runs at a profit, name one Staffer in your office or building and planning department who can fast-track permits for residents to install GreenTech.
Your Staffer and the Engineer will draft a preliminary proposal and estimate, describing the expected profit your city will receive, as well as possible sites to build your facility. These are not always within your town limits.
Most wind and solar companies skip this step. Don't. It is key to ensuring your citizens stand behind your proposed policies, projects and submit their comments.

After presenting proposals at a Supervisors' meeting and issuing a 2nd draft your Staffer and the Engineer will refine the proposal(s), and draft preliminary documentation. Your city attorney will edit the docs and a second meeting with Supervisors and the public is held.
The public will overwhelming support your proposal as soon as they see the revenue streams and you'll have their vote as soon as you share that revenue with them. This can be $1,000 - $5,000 for every man, woman and child each and every month.
The public documents invite more citizens to become part of the Team to turn your project into a reality. Within 90 days you'll begin to see revenue and within one year you'll have honored your promise of a $1,000 UBI for citizens who are part of the "Team".
Businesses will begin to form around your proposal. The more locally owned businesses the better for your community. Your Staffer and Engineer will keep a list of anticipated businesses required.
Consider forming a city-owned credit union or joining with multiple cities to form a credit union related to GreenTech projects. Doing this reduces work in the next step.
You'll be raising capital through either Bonds or private financing. Financiers who will fund your wind and solar project(s) will contact your Staff and Engineers so you can consider their offers.
This process shouldn't take more than 30 - 60 days.

Break ground, build out and train citizens to run your city-owned facility(ies). Depending on the type of facility you'll have 90 days - one year to assemble the people who will work your wind or solar farm, desalination plant or even a synthetic fuel factory; a clean-tech facility you can run right in your city.
Change policies regarding fossil fuels; from tax at the pump or a permit required to drive or park a fossil fuel vehicle it won't take long for your citizens to switch to Electric Vehicles, especially since your city can get power for free or a very low cost, reducing transportation costs to 1/20th of fossil fuel based vehicles.
In addition to utility scale facilities you're almost sure to add local wind and solar within your town. This will employ another group of local workers and spur more businesses.
As revenue comes in your Staffer can oversee a CPA/Audit team to ensure citizens receive their $1,000 - $5,000 UBI. It's likely it will be low in the beginning, and as you train more citizens you can increase the size of the project your team can do.
Other Mayors will seek your help and that means some of your citizens who have helped package projects can earn more as consultants.
Don't have Engineers? No problem they'll be trained from scratch as your city proceeds and the page for Children encourages them to sign up, train and own these facilities. They are your competition. Make them your allies instead.

Advice for actions citizens should take straight from Gretathunberg.com

FOR CITIZENS:
Thank you for coming to this short class. I'm honored.

Have you ever wished you had a $1,000 - $5,000 UBI?

If we succeed we save a planet and guarantee a future for children and all life on Earth for we will have proven we can rise to the great challenge we face. Along the way my design helps citizens in every city and village earn a $1,000 - $5,000 per month UBI or Universal Basic Income. This is a ROYALTY you and your neighbors all receive from renewable energy projects.

Let's do this together since the alternative, mass extinction of all life on Earth isn't nearly as profitable or comfortable. And let's do it quickly since an increasing number of scientists believe all life will be extinct in under a decade. Most scientists don't think it will be that fast, but all of them admit it's much faster than expected.

We have many problems. These tools will help you solve:

Bad Government: From climate deniers to facists, it's your job to get rid of them.
Bad Ideas: Financing more fossil fuel projects is suicidal.
Bad Actors: A lot of corporations have a financial interest in fossil fuels. Unfortunately, they must either transition to zero-emission projects or go bankrupt while we all go extinct.
Ecological Destruction: If we heal our only planet we might dodge extinction. If we don't we won't. Simple.
Agricultural Revolution: If we don't change how we grow our fod we'll continue to destroy the ecosystems. We're smarter than that.
Urban Renovation: We can change our cities and the Mayor's Page shows you how. To survive we must.
THE TOOLS:
The Mayor's Page contains the toolboxes for Politicians, Financiers and Engineers. You'll need a few "Extra Tools" only citizens can effectively use.

Pulse Protests let's 1,000's of people quickly organize and broadcast events.
Flash Mob Defund let's small groups of dancers come together, protest with a song and disappear before authorities can react.
WeWillShutYouDown.com let's smaller groups of citizens form Grand Juries and indict and prosecute bad politicians.
This is the most effective tool. Do this and very few of them will resist for any length of time.

If we succeed we all make bank and live to see 2100.

Yes yes all very worthy and I am sure it will keep lots of NGOs, government ministers and journalists in well paid jobs for a while...but, let's face it, every civilisation ends sooner or later. Like, I live in Siem Reap and I look at Angkor and I say' hey where all da people go?'. We have several choices - we can destroy ourselves through our hatred of each other with more and more advanced technology to kill large numbers of humans - we can destroy ourselves with more and more viruses and diseases spread around the planet either through natural occurrence or genetically manufactured - we can destroy ourselves by laying waste to the environment so that our air, water and food diminishes or is polluted - and there may be other creative ways to end our civilisation. But it will happen. Fact: if every living organism was wiped off the face of the earth in a cataclysmic event, it would only take 125,000 for the earth to regenerate as a lush paradise. But of course without us, the worst parasites imaginable. So just relax and enjoy life people - it will happen, maybe not for a hundred years or so, but it will.

lagrange wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:51 am Yes yes all very worthy and I am sure it will keep lots of NGOs, government ministers and journalists in well paid jobs for a while...but, let's face it, every civilisation ends sooner or later. Like, I live in Siem Reap and I look at Angkor and I say' hey where all da people go?'. We have several choices - we can destroy ourselves through our hatred of each other with more and more advanced technology to kill large numbers of humans - we can destroy ourselves with more and more viruses and diseases spread around the planet either through natural occurrence or genetically manufactured - we can destroy ourselves by laying waste to the environment so that our air, water and food diminishes or is polluted - and there may be other creative ways to end our civilisation. But it will happen. Fact: if every living organism was wiped off the face of the earth in a cataclysmic event, it would only take 125,000 for the earth to regenerate as a lush paradise. But of course without us, the worst parasites imaginable. So just relax and enjoy life people - it will happen, maybe not for a hundred years or so, but it will.

“ But of course without us, the worst parasites imaginable.”

The question is, are humans parasites or cancer?

https://www.intres.com/articles/esep201 ... 14p007.pdf

“ The question is, therefore, whether it will be possible to turn us humans into benign parasites on the surface of the earth, whose various evolved ecosystems would retain their ability to function, or rather, whether we will continue to be part of the earth’s ecosystem in the same way that a malignant tumor is — never for a long time — part of a person’s body: All bets are off.”

Climate Scientists Dr. Lovelock expands on the idea that humans are earths virus.

Climate change is merely the flu to kill the parasites destroying Gaia.

"Individuals occasionally suffer a disease called polycythaemia, an overpopulation of red blood cells," writes Lovelock, environmentalist, futurologist and creator of the Gaia hypothesis. "By analogy, Gaia's illness could be called polyanthroponemia, where humans overpopulate until they do more harm than good."

In his blog, MSNBC's Alan Boyle writes that University of Washington paleontologist Peter Ward has an alternate new theory: Earth is set up to kill off life, including us, when it spreads too widely.

So, let's just fix things, yes? Good luck, Lovelock would reply: "There is nothing humans can do to reverse the process; the planet is simply too overpopulated to halt its own destruction by greenhouse gases. In order to survive, mankind must start preparing now for life on a radically changed planet."

https://www.livescience.com/3561-die-hu ... -sick.html

Alex wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:51 am It will all blow over.

agree
all we need is another ice age

The part about democracy is funny.