New laws while Covid worldwide - What's new ?
- Ghostwriter
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New laws while Covid worldwide - What's new ?
For example : France just passed a "Global Security" law, forbidding to take videos or photos of policemen when they work, which forbids documenting demonstrations clashes, arrests, and else.
Yesterday was a national day of demonstrations against that.
What's new in your country ? Any similar move ? What else ?
Yesterday was a national day of demonstrations against that.
What's new in your country ? Any similar move ? What else ?
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Re: New laws while Covid worlwide - What's new ?
hmmm...
Might have something to do with this?
Macron 'shame' at beating of black man by Paris police officers
Full: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55100247
Might have something to do with this?
Macron 'shame' at beating of black man by Paris police officers
Full: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55100247
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Re: New laws while Covid worldwide - What's new ?
ALL cops HATE having their photographs taken but is a crucial part of democracy, imo.
The French story got a bit of a run in Oz last week, Ghost.
A bit of discussion on the wanker panels and op eds - and then the cops jumped in and started pushing for the same law here.
(based on privacy/safety grounds - apparently they might get ID'ed by face tech, located on GoogleMaps, and then Antifa or the "Rag Heads" (not my term) will come and throw tomatoes at their house - or something.
A young couple here got a big payout recently.
Country train - they filmed an arrest when the train stopped at a station for the cops to remove a drunk - cops said No Photos - tried to take the camera - the couple got beaten up, their camera smashed, removed from their train, and then locked up for "Indecent language, Resist arrest, Assault police" (the "trifecta" ).
They were lucky, another passenger had quietly filmed it all with his phone.
Not often, but i occasionally pull out my camera to let the cops know their treatment of the underclass is going on public record. And of course i love getting into the middle of the fire at demo's with my camera. (just for fun)
I am very very cautious tho'. It helps to know the law, be quietly confident and especially - EXtremely courteous.
The cops know perfectly well it is not illegal, but they will try to tell you it is. forcefully sometimes.
So dress me in yellow, Ghost. I'll be out there on the streets of Paris with you folk this weekend. (i wish)
The French story got a bit of a run in Oz last week, Ghost.
A bit of discussion on the wanker panels and op eds - and then the cops jumped in and started pushing for the same law here.
(based on privacy/safety grounds - apparently they might get ID'ed by face tech, located on GoogleMaps, and then Antifa or the "Rag Heads" (not my term) will come and throw tomatoes at their house - or something.
A young couple here got a big payout recently.
Country train - they filmed an arrest when the train stopped at a station for the cops to remove a drunk - cops said No Photos - tried to take the camera - the couple got beaten up, their camera smashed, removed from their train, and then locked up for "Indecent language, Resist arrest, Assault police" (the "trifecta" ).
They were lucky, another passenger had quietly filmed it all with his phone.
Not often, but i occasionally pull out my camera to let the cops know their treatment of the underclass is going on public record. And of course i love getting into the middle of the fire at demo's with my camera. (just for fun)
I am very very cautious tho'. It helps to know the law, be quietly confident and especially - EXtremely courteous.
The cops know perfectly well it is not illegal, but they will try to tell you it is. forcefully sometimes.
So dress me in yellow, Ghost. I'll be out there on the streets of Paris with you folk this weekend. (i wish)
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Re: New laws while Covid worldwide - What's new ?
Just a few happy snaps i had handy (posted prev)
Nothing special, a small housing demo on Monivong one morning
"My kind of Police Brutality - and why it is so much fun"
posted in Spoiler ^^^ cos i didn't want to take too much space
and PS, i am not a photographer, at all, nor have good camera. Anyone can have fun like this
Nothing special, a small housing demo on Monivong one morning
"My kind of Police Brutality - and why it is so much fun"
Spoiler:
and PS, i am not a photographer, at all, nor have good camera. Anyone can have fun like this
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Re: New laws while Covid worlwide - What's new ?
The law was in making before this particular beating happened.clutchcargo wrote: ↑Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:18 pm hmmm...
Might have something to do with this?
Macron 'shame' at beating of black man by Paris police officers
Full: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55100247
It sure motivated the demonstrations of yesterday..
It sure shows how dcumenting is vital, and how demonstrating is necessary.
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Re: New laws while Covid worldwide - What's new ?
Mmmh so filming cops in France : illegal (for now)
Cambodia : not recommended but somehow still doable (would i say)
Australia : legal but watch your back
Any other country input from here and there ?
Cambodia : not recommended but somehow still doable (would i say)
Australia : legal but watch your back
Any other country input from here and there ?
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Re: New laws while Covid worldwide - What's new ?
america ........100% filming in public allowed & legal>>Ghostwriter wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:00 am Mmmh so filming cops in France : illegal (for now)
Cambodia : not recommended but somehow still doable (would i say)
Australia : legal but watch your back
Any other country input from here and there ?
In recent years, there have been countless cases of police officers ordering people to turn off their cameras, confiscating phones, and, like Reilly, arresting those who attempt to capture footage of them. Despite a common misconception, it’s actually perfectly legal to film police officers on the job.
“There are First Amendment protections for people photographing and recording in public,” Mickey Osterreicher, an attorney with the National Press Photographers Association, told The Huffington Post. According to Osterreicher, as long as you don’t get in their way, it’s perfectly legal to take photos and videos of police officers everywhere in the United States.
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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Re: New laws while Covid worldwide - What's new ?
Widening the question, Yes OP
Here in Oz the Big Biz conservative Gov has done a great job handling Covid
BUT they have also used it as BS excuse to steamroll their economic rationalist, trickle down, BigBiz agenda.
All kinds of citizen, social, biz, labour and environmental safeguards are being rolled back under the cover of Covid/ekonomic measures. For Big Biz mostly.
They are going really hard with this golden "opportunity".
Here in Oz the Big Biz conservative Gov has done a great job handling Covid
BUT they have also used it as BS excuse to steamroll their economic rationalist, trickle down, BigBiz agenda.
All kinds of citizen, social, biz, labour and environmental safeguards are being rolled back under the cover of Covid/ekonomic measures. For Big Biz mostly.
They are going really hard with this golden "opportunity".
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Re: New laws while Covid worldwide - What's new ?
The problem is people shoving cameras in the cop’s faces, or making a show of it to gather as large a crowd as possible. Making potentially dangerous conditions or possibly inadvertently destroying evidence.phuketrichard wrote:
america ........100% filming in public allowed & legal>>
The job of a western police officer is one of the most dangerous, thankless jobs there is. Police are never called for happy things - not invited to weddings or parties. Only called when bad things happen or about to happen. And second guessed all along the way. Their jobs made harder by social justice activists who view police as the enemy.
Re: New laws while Covid worldwide - What's new ?
Just to clarify, in Cambodia it is IS illegal to film police or any government official unless you have a journalist licence. I was present at an incident where the police confiscated a persons mobile phone and deleted the film. The person was reluctant to give up his phone but was threatened with arrest if he did not.
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