newkidontheblock wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:55 pm

atst wrote:And then pack the passengers in like sardines not social distancing once inside the plane, they gotta make a profit, Hypocrite

If that’s hypocritical, petition airlines to pick option 2.

Tell them you want to pay 500-1000% more for your ticket to keep social distancing inside the plane. Buying a row in front, behind, and next to you on both sides will work nicely.

Any business that doesn’t make a profit (or just break even) eventually goes out of business. Profits are required just for survival. Should airlines around the world shut down in the name of your social justice?

The government is the only business that doesn’t need to make a profit. Because it can raise taxes, print money, and issue IOUs.

Sorry to derail this thread.

profit before passengers health , ok with that, just don't say your looking after your passengers and staff at the same time. They police social distancing at check in , though customs, queuing up to get onto the plane because they care for thier customers, but once on the plane its all forgotten .
Not a thread derail at all its Qantas showing how much they care. of course it hypocritical

atst wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:40 pm

CEOCambodiaNews wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:45 pm Qantas boss: Governments 'to insist' on vaccines for flying
By Jonathan Josephs
Business reporter, BBC News
Published 5 hours ago

The boss of Australian airline Qantas has told the BBC that "governments are going to insist" on vaccines for international travellers.

Even if they weren't, he thought the airline should enforce its own policy.

"We have a duty of care to our passengers and to our crew, to say that everybody in that aircraft needs to be safe," Mr Joyce said.

And then pack the passengers in like sardines not social distancing once inside the plane, they gotta make a profit, Hypocrite

I’d think restricting sales to only people with the vaccine hurts sales.

Wether your vaccinated or not you can still get the virus and pass it on, so why airlines need you to be vaccinated, I understand the country of destination wanting you vaccinated less chance of you ending up in thier hospital, but why the airlines?

newkidontheblock wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:55 pm

atst wrote:And then pack the passengers in like sardines not social distancing once inside the plane, they gotta make a profit, Hypocrite

If that’s hypocritical, petition airlines to pick option 2.

Tell them you want to pay 500-1000% more for your ticket to keep social distancing inside the plane. Buying a row in front, behind, and next to you on both sides will work nicely.

Any business that doesn’t make a profit (or just break even) eventually goes out of business. Profits are required just for survival. Should airlines around the world shut down in the name of your social justice?

The government is the only business that doesn’t need to make a profit. Because it can raise taxes, print money, and issue IOUs.

Sorry to derail this thread.

Would you prefer expensive social distancing on planes, or mandatory vaccinations to fly ? Aren't vaccination passports a win-win for passengers and airlines ?

atst wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:30 am Wether your vaccinated or not you can still get the virus and pass it on, so why airlines need you to be vaccinated, I understand the country of destination wanting you vaccinated less chance of you ending up in thier hospital, but why the airlines?

Because they don't want to be labelled as the airline that spreads Covid ? Not a good marketing strategy.
At the moment, people just want to feel safe when they travel.

Anchor Moy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:41 am

atst wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:30 am Wether your vaccinated or not you can still get the virus and pass it on, so why airlines need you to be vaccinated, I understand the country of destination wanting you vaccinated less chance of you ending up in thier hospital, but why the airlines?

Because they don't want to be labelled as the airline that spreads Covid ? Not a good marketing strategy.
At the moment, people just want to feel safe when they travel.

How safe would you feel in cattle class for 8 hours, last time I flew Sydney to Brisbane plane was packed didn't feel to safe then, guy next to me said" if we were all at the beach or park like this the cops would give us a $1000 fine "
Maybe airlines need to restructure there fares , I don't know the answer, but being packed in economy isn't the answer vaccinated or not.

atst wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:30 am Wether your vaccinated or not you can still get the virus and pass it on, so why airlines need you to be vaccinated, I understand the country of destination wanting you vaccinated less chance of you ending up in thier hospital, but why the airlines?

They don't know that yet.

This is from UK government website.

We do not yet know whether it will stop you from catching and passing on the virus, but we do expect it to reduce this risk.

hburns wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:05 am

atst wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:30 am Wether your vaccinated or not you can still get the virus and pass it on, so why airlines need you to be vaccinated, I understand the country of destination wanting you vaccinated less chance of you ending up in their hospital, but why the airlines?

They don't know that yet.

This is from UK government website.

We do not yet know whether it will stop you from catching and passing on the virus, but we do expect it to reduce this risk.

The idea is to reduce negative outcomes and as some stated further up, protect their image.
Flying is an experience, and the reason you can find videos of anti maskers getting kicked off of planes to the sound of clapping and cheering is because assholes who only think of themselves are generally unpopular (unless you're the former guy).
To preserve the industry long term, people need to come to the conclusion that they will be less likely to catch or spread the virus. They also need to come to the conclusion that even if someone gets sick, they won't die or be shackled with long term symptoms.

There has been some work regarding the transmissibility after vaccination. I'm sure more research will come as vaccinations increase.

"Marc Lipsitch and Rebecca Kahn, both of whom are epidemiologists at the Harvard School of Public Health, in a preprint study estimated from the same data that "one dose of vaccine reduces the potential for transmission by at least 61%, possibly considerably more."
https://www.advisory.com/en/daily-brief ... 20more.%22

If fewer people fly, that's ok too. Over-tourism was destroying what would otherwise be pristine and beautiful places.