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Having a bit of a debate with a friend tonight over the definition of the word 'abroad'.

Being from and island nation (the UK), the term 'abroad' means going to another country but as all other countries are always overseas (to us Brits), does that mean you have to go overseas in order to go 'abroad', or does it just mean to go from one country to another regardless of whether a sea crossing is involved or not?

For example, Norther Ireland, which is part of the UK, wouldn't ordinarily be considered as going abroad, as it's part of the same country, even though you have to go overseas to get there. However, we would consider the Republic of Ireland itself as being abroad.

In contrast, Gibraltar, which is also part of the UK, (or at least an overseas territory) is generally classes as abroad, because it involves going overseas. Even If you fly there direct, so no other countries have to technically be involved.

It's a difficult question to ask non-English speaking people as they would have different words for it anyway.

So I'm specifically asking any American / Canadian posters here. When travelling from Canada to the US or vice versa, would you say you are 'going abroad'?

Is 'abroad' specifically a British term?

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Anywhere that isn't your home country apparently. eg.
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Definition of abroad

1 : beyond the boundaries of one's country : in or to a foreign country
traveling abroad
hopes to study abroad next year
both at home and abroad
a family that came here from abroad [=from a foreign country] several years ago
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Where I'm from it's used for any foreign nation. That'd what i assumed it meant for all English speakers, but perhaps the etymology of the word derives from your understanding of it, I've never looked into it. Either way, the modern meaning is simply a country beyond your own borders (ocean or not), as mentioned.
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Do Americans use it at all?
Maybe one of those words like "boffins" - it seems to be used almost exclusively by those from British Commonwealth countries.
??

It is still used in Oz and Kiwiland, but less so nowadays.
I always thought it was a bit of an English artefact.

and possibly for those a bit "posh", or trying to be
- but that may stem from the fact that in "the olden days" the wealthy were the ones that most often travelled OS.
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I use overseas often, ie “since I’m living overseas the time difference blah blah”. But I am across the Pacific in Asia from home, the US. If I moved to Canada I guess I’d say abroad only, because there wouldn’t be a sea.
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Abroad in the world simply, if maybe a little archaic for modern definitions*, is somewhere outside of where you may be familiar, or where you might normally be found.
Abroad includes places overseas, but is not limited to.

Possibly a little further than out and about...


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I was out with abroad last night , she was lovely :good:
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Anty wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:31 am I use overseas often, ie “since I’m living overseas the time difference blah blah”. But I am across the Pacific in Asia from home, the US. If I moved to Canada I guess I’d say abroad only, because there wouldn’t be a sea.
When I lived in NZ I never heard the term 'abroad '. When people spoke about lands beyond our shores it was always 'overseas '.
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It’s the same with Hawaii or Alaska which is are US states. Americans don’t go abroad to Hawaii or Alaska. US territories are considered much further away. So they would go abroad to to Guam, for example.

Of course most visitors to Guam are Japanese and some Koreans, so it’s definitely going abroad to Guam.
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Abroadistan is a fine land.
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