Trump has Covid :::: BREAKING NEWS

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monomial wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:35 am
hburns wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:02 am I know its a horrible thing to say but I really hoped he would suffer from it. Not because I wish him bad but because of the misinformation he will spout if he only has mild symptoms. I truly fear that the result of this will be the cost more lives and more economic hardship as his followers will go back to ignoring the experts and inevitably spreading the virus more.
What I find fascinating, as someone who actually speaks with Trump supporters rather than sitting behind a keyboard and disparaging them as something less than human, is that they are not idiots who ignore "experts". They are normal people, many very intelligent, who simply hold values different to those espoused by the globalists. There is, in fact, a whole cadre of "experts" who disagree with globalist "experts" about how to handle this pandemic. And those nationalist "experts" espouse going out, living your life, and simply taking basic precautions like washing your hands.

Most Trump supporters are not stupid. They merely feel that the economic devastation encouraged by the far left's globalist ideology are not the correct way to get the world past this pandemic. We need to accept that this virus is a new feature of the landscape. We can't escape it by cowering in basements, unnecessary draconian lockdowns that cause more pain than they prevent, and really hoping it just goes away. It won't. I cringe every time I see someone who thinks that the globalist mantra is an appropriate solution, despite all the obvious pain and suffering the approach has caused. The virus isn't nearly as bad as the globalist cure.

I don't like Trump. But at least he is not afraid to face the reality of what this virus means. It is truly fantasitic that he has recovered from this virus so quickly. I hope the globalists will wake up and realize that there is no longer a need to cower in basements over this. They are on the losing side of history with regard to how this virus needs to be dealt with.

Thanks for your response and I'm glad you got the opportunity to blow off some stream.

I'm not sure what the relevance is of most of what you have written with regard to my post. I certainly didn't imply anyone was less than human or mention anything about globalists or being on the left. You don't need to be on the left to see that Trump is a horrible person, incredibly dishonest and does not care about anyone but himself. It's not just me that thinks that, plenty of republicans think that too.

As leader of the most powerful country, his words are heard far further afield than just in the US and any decent human would respect that responsibility and act accordingly. We all want the economies of the world to open up again and to help do that we all have a responsibility to follow the advice from experts to help reduce transmissions of this virus. This includes washing hands, wearing a face mask and socially distancing. This is not the time to be rejecting this advice and protesting about it being your right not to wear a mask. It is your responsibility to wear one to lower transmissions and to help your economy open up again.

As I said, my fear is that more bad advice from Trump will cost more lives and slow the opening up of economies as his followers and their ilk across the world will increasingly ignore experts advice.
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You don't need to be on the left to see that Trump is a horrible person


You gotta be cruel to be kind , he is making america great again in his way ,
We the voters realize this , you ___ ( word omitted so mods don’t need to edit ) don’t have a clue .
He will be re-elected and you all will be so much better off .
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I just heard a trump press person being interviewed on the BBC, she said that president Trump has always treated the virus 'seriously" which is why the USA is doing so much better than the rest of the world.

How do you debate with people like that ? she refuses to accept that the USA is one of the worst infected countries with the highest death rate :please:
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Trump is taking dexamethasone, a steroid that can give patients a false sense of recovery followed by a crash

President Donald Trump is receiving dexamethasone, a corticosteroid, along with a pair of experimental treatments for COVID-19. Acute euphoria is a known side effect of the steroid. Dexamethasone is meant to “keep things at bay,” so Trump will still have to fight off the virus as the steroid runs its course.

Full story: https://www.businessinsider.com.au/trum ... re-2020-10

Fauci warned that Trump's coronavirus recovery could soon go into 'reversal'

President Donald Trump’s health could go “in the wrong direction” in the next few days, Dr. Anthony Fauci has warned. As others have noted, he told CNN on Monday evening that the conditions of some people infected with the novel coronavirus went into “reversal” five to eight days into the course of the illness.

Full story: https://www.businessinsider.com.au/fauc ... se-2020-10
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I want some of those drugs he was taking, he said he feels as good as he did 20 years ago
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tightenupvolume1 wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:34 pm I want some of those drugs he was taking, he said he feels as good as he did 20 years ago
Jack Daniels and fast women. Am I allowed to say that?
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tightenupvolume1 wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:26 pm I just heard a trump press person being interviewed on the BBC, she said that president Trump has always treated the virus 'seriously" which is why the USA is doing so much better than the rest of the world.

How do you debate with people like that ? she refuses to accept that the USA is one of the worst infected countries with the highest death rate :please:
Did you even make the slightest attempt to understand the metric she was applying to determine "better"? Or did you simply substitute your value system and decide that she was an idiot because she didn't agree with you?

Personally, I think the US is doing a fantastic job with this virus. Much better than most countries. Not as good as Sweden, of course, but much better than most everywhere in Europe. I don't use the media reported death rate to come to this conclusion. What I see instead is that the US has already managed to move a tremendous number of its citizens from the 'S' category (Suceptible) into the 'R' category (Recovered/Removed). This number isn't published, but you can use the total number of cases per capita as a proxy.

Look at the UK by contrast. They are actually talking about LOCKING DOWN again. Now that is truly a horrible situation, and represents a complete failure of policy to deal with the realities of this virus. The pain from lockdowns is so much worse than the pain from this virus. The UK still has much more pain in front of it than does the USA. Between the two countries there is no doubt the USA has done a much better job to date. The USA has done much of the hard work already. The UK is still hiding from it.

Perhaps instead of disparaging people with different value systems who think differently than you, you should try and understand them. How do you debate with people like me? It isn't hard. You try and find common ground, understand each other's perspective, and treat each other with respect.

Try it. You might find it makes the world a better place. If you can't understand a perspective, perhaps the problem lies with you.
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This is all irrelevant now as I am sure you have heard trumps latest announcement. He has been cured, it is a miracle ! He was ill, needed oxygen and then hospital and a few days later not only is he cured but he feels better than he did 20 years ago, its a wonder drug that he is going to wheel out for free to every American

All over the world medical experts are working night and day to find a cure and all the time it was under their noses and it needed Trump to show them.

Nobel prize for him ?Image
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"Did you even make the slightest attempt to understand the metric she was applying to determine"

what ?
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Jeez, he gets stuck into the Chinese from 3.57

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