techietraveller84 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:07 am I saw on twitter Khmer Times said they were demanding upwards of $214, despite a living wage being around $250.

Newinkow wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:20 am

techietraveller84 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:07 am I saw on twitter Khmer Times said they were demanding upwards of $214, despite a living wage being around $250.

I truly hope that they get what they demand. Would really like to see them get the $250 (if not more) living wage amount.

It's about time consumers in 1st world countries to stop exploiting cheap labour from 3rd world countries.

Kenr wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:31 am It’s kind of sad when you see the prices of some of the clothing items that are made in Cambodia, Thailand, Vietnam, China, and India, and then you hear how much these workers are paid. These companies could pay these workers a living wage and still make huge profits.

AndyKK wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:31 am

Newinkow wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:20 am

techietraveller84 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:07 am I saw on twitter Khmer Times said they were demanding upwards of $214, despite a living wage being around $250.

I truly hope that they get what they demand. Would really like to see them get the $250 (if not more) living wage amount.

It's about time consumers in 1st world countries to stop exploiting cheap labour from 3rd world countries.

Yah, easily done, and you will pay 3 times the price for your new sports top. And also, if that happens Cambodia will be out of the textile industry! Investors will go to another country.
Or better still because of today's knowledge of 1st world countries they could just automate the industry.

Newinkow wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:20 pm Not to be argumentative and go off topic

IMHO. I blame the downfall of society in United States (1st world countries in general, Canada included) on strong unions and globalization. Unions created a big and powerful middle-class with a workforce mostly consisting of people with a high school education. Also a job for life with good benefits and a pension. Creating a high standard of living that we have come a custom to. Globalization basically moved those high paying unions jobs to "cheap labour" countries. The erosion of the middle-class created a widening gap between the "haves and have nots".

Minimum wage in 1st world countries just leads to inflation. As an example, in my province of Alberta, in Canada, the Minimum Wage went from $10 to $15 per hour in 4 years. Now a meal at McDonald's will set you back by at least $13 To $15. Before it was $7 or $8. The people living on the poverty line still live on the poverty line even though Minimum Wage has increase by 50% in 4 years.

I agree that gov't needs to step in to help the poor but blank Minimum Wage policy is not the way to go. Minimum Wage policy is a lazy man's solution. They should enact policies to target those at risk groups. Policies such as rent subsidies, tax breaks, education and skill training etc.

Basically we are back to education of both the blue and white collar workforce to increase their wage potential in today's workforce due to globalization. The days of high paying jobs with a high school education are gone.

Kenr wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:35 pm

Newinkow wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:20 pm Not to be argumentative and go off topic

IMHO. I blame the downfall of society in United States (1st world countries in general, Canada included) on strong unions and globalization. Unions created a big and powerful middle-class with a workforce mostly consisting of people with a high school education. Also a job for life with good benefits and a pension. Creating a high standard of living that we have come a custom to. Globalization basically moved those high paying unions jobs to "cheap labour" countries. The erosion of the middle-class created a widening gap between the "haves and have nots".

Minimum wage in 1st world countries just leads to inflation. As an example, in my province of Alberta, in Canada, the Minimum Wage went from $10 to $15 per hour in 4 years. Now a meal at McDonald's will set you back by at least $13 To $15. Before it was $7 or $8. The people living on the poverty line still live on the poverty line even though Minimum Wage has increase by 50% in 4 years.

I agree that gov't needs to step in to help the poor but blank Minimum Wage policy is not the way to go. Minimum Wage policy is a lazy man's solution. They should enact policies to target those at risk groups. Policies such as rent subsidies, tax breaks, education and skill training etc.

Basically we are back to education of both the blue and white collar workforce to increase their wage potential in today's workforce due to globalization. The days of high paying jobs with a high school education are gone.

We do have policies here that provide rent subsidies, healthcare subsidies, and other things, but then you have individuals who bitch about that because they claim it’s socialism.

Having a minimum wage provides a starting point, otherwise you would have only two (2) classes of people, the haves and the have nots. And without unions, and government agencies like the EEOC, NLRB, OSHA, there would be no workers rights or protection from abuse.

Newinkow wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:48 pm

Kenr wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:35 pm

Newinkow wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:20 pm Not to be argumentative and go off topic

IMHO. I blame the downfall of society in United States (1st world countries in general, Canada included) on strong unions and globalization. Unions created a big and powerful middle-class with a workforce mostly consisting of people with a high school education. Also a job for life with good benefits and a pension. Creating a high standard of living that we have come a custom to. Globalization basically moved those high paying unions jobs to "cheap labour" countries. The erosion of the middle-class created a widening gap between the "haves and have nots".

Minimum wage in 1st world countries just leads to inflation. As an example, in my province of Alberta, in Canada, the Minimum Wage went from $10 to $15 per hour in 4 years. Now a meal at McDonald's will set you back by at least $13 To $15. Before it was $7 or $8. The people living on the poverty line still live on the poverty line even though Minimum Wage has increase by 50% in 4 years.

I agree that gov't needs to step in to help the poor but blank Minimum Wage policy is not the way to go. Minimum Wage policy is a lazy man's solution. They should enact policies to target those at risk groups. Policies such as rent subsidies, tax breaks, education and skill training etc.

Basically we are back to education of both the blue and white collar workforce to increase their wage potential in today's workforce due to globalization. The days of high paying jobs with a high school education are gone.

We do have policies here that provide rent subsidies, healthcare subsidies, and other things, but then you have individuals who bitch about that because they claim it’s socialism.

Having a minimum wage provides a starting point, otherwise you would have only two (2) classes of people, the haves and the have nots. And without unions, and government agencies like the EEOC, NLRB, OSHA, there would be no workers rights or protection from abuse.

I have to admit I don't know too much about the Labour laws in United States.

Speaking for Canada, we have strong labour laws to protect employees. It's not prefect but workers do have rights now with out fears reprisal. Unions had it's place in time but over the years have swing too far in favour of the employees. I'm not saying to get rid of unions but we need to found a happy middle ground between employers and unions.

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