Equinix wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:08 pm [quote="newkidontheblock]

On to subject of Linux. Any domestic user doesn’t want to learn Linux. Any domestic user just wants something to work. The idea of harnessing computer power and efficiency appeals to programmers and tech personnel. Even the Mac Operating System runs Linux (actually Unix with a Darwin kernel) underneath.

I don’t want to open SSH Shell and $bash something on my iPhone to make a call or read this forum. I would rather press the phone app or the Tapatalk app.

I admire those who go with Linux and the many flavors.

Linux is great for "domestic users"

Linux is open source and free which means more secure than windows, and a very low change of viruses if you download from authorized repositories.

Mint Linux​ (and I believe Ubuntu) come automatically with Firefox as a browser, Libre office for word/excel/presentations, gimp to edit pictures/photos, vlc player for videos and it normally finds the drivers "automatically" for printers/scanners or other devices you would connect to your computer.

You can install most applications people would need through the build in software manager (you don't need to use a terminal) and just like windows or MacOS you can just click the shortcut to open the program or files you want to start.

There is a steam version for Linux with a large database of games...

Learning some basic commands to use in terminal will probably be a good idea but hardly necessary for most people.

My mother of 65 has been using Linux for the last 15 years. If she can use it anyone can. Lol...​


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My 87 year old mother has been running Linux for 21 years. she knows more than me.

Equinix wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:08 pm [quote="newkidontheblock]

On to subject of Linux. Any domestic user doesn’t want to learn Linux. Any domestic user just wants something to work. The idea of harnessing computer power and efficiency appeals to programmers and tech personnel. Even the Mac Operating System runs Linux (actually Unix with a Darwin kernel) underneath.

I don’t want to open SSH Shell and $bash something on my iPhone to make a call or read this forum. I would rather press the phone app or the Tapatalk app.

I admire those who go with Linux and the many flavors.

Linux is great for "domestic users"

Linux is open source and free which means more secure than windows, and a very low change of viruses if you download from authorized repositories.

Mint Linux​ (and I believe Ubuntu) come automatically with Firefox as a browser, Libre office for word/excel/presentations, gimp to edit pictures/photos, vlc player for videos and it normally finds the drivers "automatically" for printers/scanners or other devices you would connect to your computer.

You can install most applications people would need through the build in software manager (you don't need to use a terminal) and just like windows or MacOS you can just click the shortcut to open the program or files you want to start.

There is a steam version for Linux with a large database of games...

Learning some basic commands to use in terminal will probably be a good idea but hardly necessary for most people.

My mother of 65 has been using Linux for the last 15 years. If she can use it anyone can. Lol...​


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My 87 year old mother has been running Linux for 21 years. She inspires awe and she knows more than me.

Marty wrote:

Equinix wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:08 pmMy mother of 65 has been using Linux for the last 15 years. If she can use it anyone can.

My 87 year old mother has been running Linux for 21 years. She inspires awe and she knows more than me.

My mother still can’t set the clock on a microwave. My grandma (who died 30+ years ago) was still telling mom not to play with the dirty Chinese kids and just with the nice Japanese ones. She never learned to speak Mandarin.

Hat’s off to both your super mothers!

Ubuntu 20.10 released yesterday. Excellent choice for beginners as well as power users.

The vid below goes through the whole process of installation. Super simple to setup.

Thank you SEAdude for a fantastic and easy to use tutorial. Ununtu 20.10 is now running on my computers thanks to that and my dear granny is jealous. She's still using the previous version.

No worries Marty. Here at some of the other ubuntu flavors. Always wanted to check out ubuntu studio. Looks like a great setup for artists and musicians.

https://fossbytes.com/seven-official-fl ... eased/amp/

SEAdude wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:23 am No worries Marty. Here at some of the other ubuntu flavors. Always wanted to check out ubuntu studio. Looks like a great setup for artists and musicians.

https://fossbytes.com/seven-official-fl ... eased/amp/

Yes, looks interesting. Running Linux Mint 20 on this machine, and it is the best version yet. I remember Mint 13 and 17 being good, but versions in between and after having some glitches that were annoying. Mint 20 is super smooth and the only glitch that remains from previous versions is the battery monitor not showing up on the panel but that's no big deal. Linux Mint 20, highly recommended.

It's now about 6 weeks since I fully switched to Linux and it's pretty safe to say that I won't be going back to Windows. I went through several distro's and a variety of DE's and have eventually settled on Manjaro with Gnome, although I do like the look of the new KDE Plasma so will probably change to that.

I'm not sure why people say Ubuntu and Linux Mint are the best for new users. I'd say Manjaro is a lot easier just because of the ability to use the AUR which pretty much eliminates the need to use the terminal almost entirely. It's the terminal that puts most new users off of Linux.

The only downside to using Linux I've found is that because it's so highly customisable, way way beyond anything you can do on a WIndows or Mac, I find that I'm forever tweaking this, changing that, and playing with the other, which does impact on your productivity quite a bit. But boy do I have one sexy looking machine right now.

For the majority of users who just use their computer to do pretty basic, every day computing tasks and don't need specialist software, I'd recommend Linux over WIndows or Mac any day.

Agreed, using the terminal in Linux is so 1980s! It's easy enough, but one mistake typing long strings in, and it acts like a 1970s computer and says the equivalent of: It does not compute! I very seldom have to use terminal these days though.

I'd take a look at Manjaro out of curiosity, but I'm firmly in the Ubuntu/Mint camp. As far as Windoze goes, never again. And people love Mac 'cause "it just works," but expensive hardware that breaks just as often as any other computer puts me off.

Awesome xandreu! I have been using linux since 1997, where you had to compile the kernel to work with drivers (like sound/video devices). But I have always used Unix so seeing a free distro (RedHat at the time) was really cool. I write programs in many different languages and I use the shell constantly so all this stuff just comes native to me. But today's distros are so easy to use that you'd never know you are even using linux. Take for example 'Linux FX' which looks very similar to Windows 10... or make it look like a mac if that is your thing
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/mak ... ac-5-steps ... If you want to get ever nerdier you can look here to find the exact specification of distro that may fit: https://distrowatch.com/

Personally I just use the Gnome 3.36 (default Ubuntu 20.10) and get on with what I am doing. The developers really did a great job making this all work.

I recently bought the cheapest Asus from Chantra Computer that had 1080p display. Ended up getting a 15" Asus VivoBook X509M 512SSD and 1Tb sata + 8gb ram for $370 (with no OS and just installed Unbuntu). (here is a link to this series of laptop: https://www.asus.com/Laptops/ASUS-Laptop-15-X509MA/ ) I really like this setup for programming and I surly recommend it as it has so many of the latest devices for something that cheap! Anyway, thx for bring up the linux stuff here. Only ever seen one other guy using it on a cheap laptop and he mainly used it for just surfing the web which is 90% of what people seem to do anyway. ~ Cheers!