newkidontheblock wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:58 am It’s not just during the war. The Vietnamese came in and drove the Khmer Rouge out. And then handed the reigns over the the UN. The UN then handed it over to the Prince and Iron Man, which then turned into a power struggle.

Depending on who lost and who won, and who’s currently in power, ownership of land, houses, etc., could have changed hands many times as well. On top of that are the squatters, muddying things even more.

Once Iron Man was firmly in control did things like ownership get addressed.

Am I right? Or is it just speculation on my part?

You make it sound like it all happened quickly. The war went on for years. After years, the UN came in.

It was mostly this side continually gaining territory. Territory did not go back and forth a lot. Ownership of land did not normally go back and forth.

People only bought land in places where there was relative security. People did not normally buy land in the fighting zone.

Once the Iron Man was firmly in control, rules and laws were put in place. But people had been buying and selling land for years before that.

Even years after that, some people bought land with legal titles, and others bought land from squatters, without legal titles. Land without legal titles was normally less expensive.

If people live in a place without legal titles long enough, they become the legal owners.

explorer wrote:You make it sound like it all happened quickly. The war went on for years. After years, the UN came in.
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Once the Iron Man was firmly in control, rules and laws were put in place. But people had been buying and selling land for years before that.

Did I say that the time from Khmer Rouge to Iron Man went quickly? Decades and decades passed.

Once Iron Man came into power, not just rules and laws were put into place, but they were enforced. The controlling power is the one that puts the teeth into them.

Lots of land deals were invalidated. Depending on how much power one had in the HE government, others were upheld. The decades of land buying and selling under different regimes has left a lot of confusion to this day. All depending on the type of title and level of power of person who wants your land.

Land title is relative in Cambodia. A little better than Thailand, where multiple claims can be on a title. It isn’t like the US, where there is a title search before purchase, the validity of the land title is backed by the title company and further backed by the law.

Explorer, people might agree with you more if you don’t keep trying to attack them.

Thanks a lot for your input John Bingham.
We all appreciate the time you took out of your busy schedule to shed some light on this.

You are living in Cambodia, I am only the former eternal traveller to the Kingdom of Wonder looking from afar. You have a better pulse of things than I do.

But just looking at some of the CEO News.

Land swindling scheme with the village chief and police. 1/3 of the village land bought up by them. Only discovered and prosecuted now after many years.

Tracts of forest granted to companies, indigenous people’s kicked off. Land listed as protected.

The lake in Phnom Penh, granted to another company. Lake filled in. People living around the lake kicked out. Despite mass protests, they are still homeless.

As for satellite location of property, official satellite maps show the missus’ family land as abandoned and owned by no one. The advances that are enjoyed by those in the big cities are not necessarily widely available in the countryside.

I’m glad that the laws in the Kingdom of Wonder are equally applied to all just like in the US. That the little guy is just as important as any okhna in a court of law.

newkidontheblock wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:50 am
As for satellite location of property, official satellite maps show the missus’ family land as abandoned and owned by no one. The advances that are enjoyed by those in the big cities are not necessarily widely available in the countryside.

Cambodia is currently in the process of converting soft titles for land in satellite map backed up hard titles. But, every plot of land will be measured, so it's quite a labor intensive task. The incentive for the Cambodian government is better register plus the ability to tax the land owner. If the map doesn't show full details the land hasn't been measured yet and it's still soft title based.

Another incentive is the land office will try to extort some money from the land owner to receive the hard title, despite the World Bank and Asian development bank covering the costs in cooperation with the Cambodian government.

Our land has been measured about 2 years ago. The hard title is ready for collection, if we pay. I refused to pay for the hard title so far (it has already been paid for, and in exchange will come with burden to pay yearly tax).

khmerhamster wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:04 am

amatuertrader wrote:Thanks a lot for your input John Bingham.
We all appreciate the time you took out of your busy schedule to shed some light on this.

That's the danger with self appointed experts.
Those who actually do know stuff have neither the energy or inclination to correct, and most likely being drawn into arguing with those who actually know very little.

There are a couple of long winded self appointed 'sages' on this site, with whom when i see a thread that they are involved in I am completely turned off from participating in.

So maybe you should start your own perfect forum with Bingham and only allow posters who know everything and were born knowing everything.

But then there wouldn't be much left to talk about, so maybe not such a great idea for a public forum after all.