What have you learnt from Cambodians that you do?

Kuroneko · Post by **Kuroneko** » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:57 am

cautious colin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:39 am
whatwat wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:16 am It’s a little irritating when westerners do the samphor (Sp) to other westerners. Cultural appropriation at its worse.
Apart from being no such thing as cultural appropration i disagree.

There is such a "thing" as Cultural Appropriation:

Cultural appropriation, at times also phrased cultural misappropriation,[1][2][3] is the adoption of an element or elements of one culture or identity by members of another culture or identity. This can be controversial when members of a dominant culture appropriate from disadvantaged minority cultures.[4][1][2]

According to critics of the practice, cultural appropriation differs from acculturation, assimilation, or equal cultural exchange in that this appropriation is a form of colonialism. When cultural elements are copied from a minority culture by members of a dominant culture, these elements are used outside of their original cultural context—sometimes even against the expressly stated wishes of members of the originating culture.[2][5][6][7][8][9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_appropriation

Alex · Post by **Alex** » Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:54 pm

Kuroneko wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:57 am Cultural appropriation, at times also phrased cultural misappropriation,[1][2][3] is the adoption of an element or elements of one culture or identity by members of another culture or identity. This can be controversial when members of a dominant culture appropriate from disadvantaged minority cultures.

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. If anyone gets offended by that, it's their problem. If I see something in other cultures that I like, I have no qualms to make it mine if it suits me. And neither should anyone else.

cautious colin · Post by **cautious colin** » Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:12 pm

Kuroneko wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:57 am
cautious colin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:39 am
whatwat wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:16 am It’s a little irritating when westerners do the samphor (Sp) to other westerners. Cultural appropriation at its worse.
Apart from being no such thing as cultural appropration i disagree.

There is such a "thing" as Cultural Appropriation:

Cultural appropriation, at times also phrased cultural misappropriation,[1][2][3] is the adoption of an element or elements of one culture or identity by members of another culture or identity. This can be controversial when members of a dominant culture appropriate from disadvantaged minority cultures.[4][1][2]

According to critics of the practice, cultural appropriation differs from acculturation, assimilation, or equal cultural exchange in that this appropriation is a form of colonialism. When cultural elements are copied from a minority culture by members of a dominant culture, these elements are used outside of their original cultural context—sometimes even against the expressly stated wishes of members of the originating culture.[2][5][6][7][8][9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_appropriation

Thanks for that. I know what it "is" but I think it is just a ridiculous term.

AndyKK · Post by **AndyKK** » Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:36 pm

Kuroneko wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:57 am
cautious colin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:39 am
whatwat wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:16 am It’s a little irritating when westerners do the samphor (Sp) to other westerners. Cultural appropriation at its worse.
Apart from being no such thing as cultural appropration i disagree.

There is such a "thing" as Cultural Appropriation:

Cultural appropriation, at times also phrased cultural misappropriation,[1][2][3] is the adoption of an element or elements of one culture or identity by members of another culture or identity. This can be controversial when members of a dominant culture appropriate from disadvantaged minority cultures.[4][1][2]

According to critics of the practice, cultural appropriation differs from acculturation, assimilation, or equal cultural exchange in that this appropriation is a form of colonialism. When cultural elements are copied from a minority culture by members of a dominant culture, these elements are used outside of their original cultural context—sometimes even against the expressly stated wishes of members of the originating culture.[2][5][6][7][8][9] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_appropriation

Adoption of certain elements from another culture, are crushed here -

https://gallagher-photo.com/environment ... ning-film/

Worthy of it's own thread.

Phnom Poon · Post by **Phnom Poon** » Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:48 pm

Kuroneko wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:57 am this appropriation is a form of colonialism.

lol
the rest of the world can stop wearing trousers, suits, t-shirts, etc right now
i feel colonised

Anchor Moy · Post by **Anchor Moy** » Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:42 pm

C'mon, learning how to be polite or adapting to local customs is not "cultural appropriation". Cambodians might laugh at you, but they don't get "offended". That is a western concept. They might think you're a bit weird but who cares.

You can wear a krama at home or in the village. Trying to be funny is ok too. Nobody in Cambodia is going to be offended when you say "Joy Mouy" or something equivalent.

whatwat · Post by **whatwat** » Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:29 pm

cautious colin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:39 am
whatwat wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:16 am It’s a little irritating when westerners do the samphor (Sp) to other westerners. Cultural appropriation at its worse.
Apart from being no such thing as cultural appropration i disagree.

In covid times knowing whether to shake hands can be tricky, and surely its better than the ridiculous elbow bump bollocks?

I disagree with your post.

Apart from the fact it was a question about Cambodia not about awkward expats.

newkidontheblock · Post by **newkidontheblock** » Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:58 pm

Alex wrote:
Kuroneko wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:57 am Cultural appropriation, at times also phrased cultural misappropriation,[1][2][3] is the adoption of an element or elements of one culture or identity by members of another culture or identity. This can be controversial when members of a dominant culture appropriate from disadvantaged minority cultures.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. If anyone gets offended by that, it's their problem. If I see something in other cultures that I like, I have no qualms to make it mine if it suits me. And neither should anyone else.

Just like the Romans adopting Greek culture and spreading it across the known world? To the betterment of western civilization?

Or the French, building the Silver Palace out of the perceived best elements of Khmer civilization for the Cambodian monarchy?

Post by **Jamie_Lambo** » Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:56 pm

i thought cultural appropriation was only used when black people got angry at white people for wearing dreadlocks in their hair... its the only time ive seen people using the term and being "offended"

whatwat · Post by **whatwat** » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:39 am

Anchor Moy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:42 pm C'mon, learning how to be polite or adapting to local customs is not "cultural appropriation". Cambodians might laugh at you, but they don't get "offended". That is a western concept. They might think you're a bit weird but who cares.

You can wear a krama at home or in the village. Trying to be funny is ok too. Nobody in Cambodia is going to be offended when you say "Joy Mouy" or something equivalent.

Totally agree however westerners doing it to other westerners is just naff.

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