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Re: sad day for Hong Kong

Post by newkidontheblock » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:26 am

clutchcargo wrote:China’s ambassador to the UK on Thursday warned that Beijing would take steps to invalidate British national (overseas) passports, potentially trapping up to three million people in Hong Kong.
So once this happens, what happens to the poor Brit who happens to be in China now? They get to the airport to go home in holiday, just to have their passport taken from them and then sent to concentration camp for English teachers?
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Re: sad day for Hong Kong

Post by Yerg » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:42 am

newkidontheblock wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:26 am
clutchcargo wrote:China’s ambassador to the UK on Thursday warned that Beijing would take steps to invalidate British national (overseas) passports, potentially trapping up to three million people in Hong Kong./quote]

So once this happens, what happens to the poor Brit who happens to be in China now? They get to the airport to go home in holiday, just to have their passport taken from them and then sent to concentration camp for English teachers?
No, British National Overseas Passports are different from British passports. And they’re not in China. They’re in HK.
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Re: sad day for Hong Kong

Post by phuketrichard » Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:28 am

once again;
read;
If this doesn't show you China is out to get anyone,anywhere that disagrees with them an acts to make people aware of it;
WORLD: Hong Kong police have ordered the arrest of six pro-democracy activists living in exile on suspicion of violating the national security law, Chinese state media reported late yesterday (July 31), but the city’s force refused to comment.
The six included prominent young campaigner Nathan Law, 27, who recently relocated to Britain after fleeing Hong Kong.

“Hong Kong police officially ordered the arrests of six trouble-makers who have fled overseas,” CCTV state television said.

Law called the charges “trumped-up” and said his only “crime” is that he “loves Hong Kong too much”.

The law targets subversion, secession, terrorism and colluding with foreign forces with up to life in prison, but critics said it was a legal weapon to silence dissidents and criminalise certain political views.

It would be the first time the city’s police have used the extraterritorial power in the new law to go after activists who are not in the territory.
“Hong Kong police is targeting a US citizen for lobbying my own government. I might be the first non-Chinese citizen to be targeted, but I will not be the last,” Chu said on Twitter.


“If I am targeted, any American, any citizen of any nation who speaks out for HK can-and will be-too,” he added.
https://www.thephuketnews.com/hong-kong ... u3A-wdfr_Q
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Re: sad day for Hong Kong

Post by clutchcargo » Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:45 am

newkidontheblock wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:26 am
clutchcargo wrote:China’s ambassador to the UK on Thursday warned that Beijing would take steps to invalidate British national (overseas) passports, potentially trapping up to three million people in Hong Kong.
So once this happens, what happens to the poor Brit who happens to be in China now? They get to the airport to go home in holiday, just to have their passport taken from them and then sent to concentration camp for English teachers?
Probably why Australia updated their advisory on travel to China (incl HK) on 7 July viz:
Australia has updated its travel advice for China to warn that authorities have detained foreigners on alleged national security grounds and that Australians may be at risk of arbitrary detention. ... Australians may also be at risk of arbitrary detention.”Jul 7, 2020
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... .%E2%80%9D

I haven't followed whether the UK and US have done the same but with the current tensions as they are, personally I wouldn't be risking any travel there.
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Re: sad day for Hong Kong

Post by aggro » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:13 pm

phuketrichard wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:28 am
China is out to get anyone,anywhere that disagrees with them an acts to make people aware of it;
Is China the only country where that is the case?

What do other governments around the world do with people that disagree with them and act to make people aware of it?

https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/06/05/cam ... phnom-penh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassina ... _Khashoggi

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Re: sad day for Hong Kong

Post by aggro » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:15 pm

newkidontheblock wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:18 am
Singapore government passes a law that affects the Singapore people. Their government, their people.

China passes a law that affects Hong Kong people. The Hong Kong people didn’t ask for this law, it was imposed on them. Furthermore, the law grabs people from the streets of Hong Kong and sends them to China for processing.

Not their government, not their people.
Oh I see, it's okay to be oppressed as long as it's by "your own people".

Got it. Thanks. LOL!

What makes them"their own people" by the way? Being born in the same area, speaking the same language, or what?

Do you think the people of Thailand, Singapore, North Korea or any other country "asked for" laws that restrict their right to free speech and assembly?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
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Re: sad day for Hong Kong

Post by phuketrichard » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:17 pm

aggro wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:13 pm
phuketrichard wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:28 am
China is out to get anyone,anywhere that disagrees with them an acts to make people aware of it;
Is China the only country where that is the case?

What do other governments around the world do with people that disagree with them and act to make people aware of it?

https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/06/05/cam ... phnom-penh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassina ... _Khashoggi

:hattip:
you keep trying to take this OFF topic;
the op is "sad day for HK"
NOT America, NOT Cambodia
not....
start a topic on these countries if you wish :beer1:
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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Re: sad day for Hong Kong

Post by aggro » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:32 pm

phuketrichard wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:17 pm
you keep trying to take this OFF topic;
the op is "sad day for HK"
NOT America, NOT Cambodia
not....
start a topic on these countries if you wish :beer1:
No thanks.

I want to know why you are okay with the same laws over there where you live in the land of smiles, but have a problem when they are enacted in Hong Kong.

Shouldn't be tough to answer if there's any consistency in your outlook.
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Re: sad day for Hong Kong

Post by newkidontheblock » Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:44 pm

Aggro - the PRC thanks you for your tireless support. You will have good social credit once the culture wars are won and western culture is all but forgotten.
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