Foreign Marriage Recognition in Cambodia

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explorer wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:21 am
CamCam wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:26 am I am new to the site and wish to know of my marriage to a Cambodian woman held in Australia is recognised in Cambodia. If it is recognised does that mean I am married in Cambodia or do I need to go through the process like a new marriage.
I don't understand why it is an issue. If you are married in Australia, you are married. Why make it more complicated?
when under 55 getting a visa is more easy when legally married.
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Kammekor wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:57 am when under 55 getting a visa is more easy when legally married.
It was never difficult for me.

Is that the only reason?
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explorer wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:27 am
Kammekor wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:57 am when under 55 getting a visa is more easy when legally married.
It was never difficult for me.

Is that the only reason?
I don't know, but it's the only reason I can think of. Being married in Cambodia doesn't come with any legal rights AFAIK.

But... Obtaining multiple entry EB extensions has become increasingly difficult over the last years, the DoI will not just provide a visa without any supporting paperwork. And if you have this EB visa, legally a work permit is required too. If you're not legally employed in Cambodia that can become quite a hassle. Even in the boonies the immigration police and labor department are doing yearly checks on those now.

If you have a wedding certificate that will do together with the name card of your Cambodian partner.
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Cambodia must be the only country in the world that does not recognize a marriage in another country?

Why?
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explorer wrote:Cambodia must be the only country in the world that does not recognize a marriage in another country?

Why?
Thank you Department of Sex Trafficking, Ministry of Interior.

At least that’s my theory. Based on their disbelief that I am an American. Because I wasn’t Caucasian. It didn’t help that I dressed in business attire (like someone who would visit a Department or Embassy in Washington, DC).
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explorer wrote:Cambodia must be the only country in the world that does not recognize a marriage in another country?

Why?
What part of "they want their tea money" don't you understand? It's one of the most corrupt countries in the world.
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One of the main benefits of being legally married in Cambodia is asset protection ie. joint property ownership, you both get your name included on the hard-title and the property cannot be sold without authorisation from both parties.

Another is inheritance. If the Cambodian partner passes away, the foreign partner inherits their assets, including property, however with the property due to the constitution regarding foreigner property ownership you cannot keep it and have 3 months to sell it or transfer ownership. If the foreigner passes away, then the Cambodian partner inherits the foreigners assets in Cambodia, and depending on the Foreigners Country of Citizenship's laws, any assets the foreigner may have had in their home country (unless there is a will stating otherwise).

It is also a pathway to citizenship if that is something you are interested in.

There is also the likelihood of a marriage/spousal Visa type or EOS category being introduced in the near future, there is currently a working group reviewing the Law on Immigration for updating, and this is I have been informed is definitely one of the topics being discussed and considered.
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explorer wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:39 am Cambodia must be the only country in the world that does not recognize a marriage in another country?

Why?
They are creating another administrative barrier that the only way to navigate is to "help them out", and "make an arrangement". Foreigners and marriage seems to be one of the worst in Cambodia.

Probably with a whiff of discrimination thrown in.
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PSD-Kiwi wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 1:00 pm One of the main benefits of being legally married in Cambodia is asset protection ie. joint property ownership, you both get your name included on the hard-title and the property cannot be sold without authorisation from both parties.

Another is inheritance. If the Cambodian partner passes away, the foreign partner inherits their assets, including property, however with the property due to the constitution regarding foreigner property ownership you cannot keep it and have 3 months to sell it or transfer ownership. If the foreigner passes away, then the Cambodian partner inherits the foreigners assets in Cambodia, and depending on the Foreigners Country of Citizenship's laws, any assets the foreigner may have had in their home country (unless there is a will stating otherwise).

It is also a pathway to citizenship if that is something you are interested in.

There is also the likelihood of a marriage/spousal Visa type or EOS category being introduced in the near future, there is currently a working group reviewing the Law on Immigration for updating, and this is I have been informed is definitely one of the topics being discussed and considered.
Thanks, that is a very helpful outline of the benefits.
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PSD-Kiwi wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 2:53 pm Lonestar was one of the lucky ones, and as far as I am aware one of the last to have their marriage abroad formally & legally recognised in Cambodia.

The MoFAIC and MoI will not recognise marriages between Foreigners & Cambodian Nationals unless the marriage procedure followed the application of the Law on Marriage & Family, that is...
Marriage between a Cambodian citizen and Cambodian citizen or between a Cambodian citizen and foreigner living in a foreign country must be held before the registrar of the embassy or consulate of the State of Cambodia which is located in the country where both party reside.

Marriage between a Cambodian and Cambodian or Cambodian citizen and foreigner, which is formally held
according to marriage procedure described by the law of the marriage, shall be recognized as being valid in the
State of Cambodia as long as such marriage is not against the provisions of the laws of the State of Cambodia.

A marriage certificate or a copy of the marriage certificate must be registered in a registration book of the embassy
or consulate of the State of Cambodia.

The State of Cambodia shall enter the marriage certificate or copy of the marriage certificate in the registration
book of the Commune or Section in the jurisdiction where both spouses reside
CamCam wrote: Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:26 am ... or do I need to go through the process like a new marriage.
You will not be eligible to go through the marriage process in Cambodia due to already being married, one of the requirements for the process in Cambodia is providing evidence that you are not already married ie. Certificate of non-impediment/Single Status/Divorced/Widowed.

You could try petitioning the the Phnom Penh Court of First Instance to have your marriage abroad recognised, but there is no guarantee and you need to consider whether the hassle and cost involved is worth it.

Why is it so important for you to have your marriage legally recognised in Cambodia? If not planning to live here long-term and/or raise children here, then there aren't that really many advantages to being legally married here. If planning to live here long-term and/or raise children here, then it is beneficial to be legally married in Cambodia, but not absolutely necessary by any means.
Based on your quotation of the law, it seems to say that one should appear at the Cambodian Embassy in a foreign country. Let's say someone went to get married in France. Could they then go to the Cambodian Embassy in Paris to register their marriage at around the same time that they are married in that country?
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