rogerrabbit wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:59 pm

Duncan wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:39 pm Sihanoukville was popular with tourist because of what it was,,, not because of what it could be.

Statistics doesn't really indicate that. Sihanoukville visitor numbers have doubled from 2014 to 2019.

Whats your source for visitor numbers please ?

Until early 2017, Snooky was still ok but very quickly went downhill after that, its mid 2017-2020 when the big problems (Chinese destruction/development ) really started

jaynewcastle wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:14 pm

rogerrabbit wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:59 pm

Duncan wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2020 5:39 pm Sihanoukville was popular with tourist because of what it was,,, not because of what it could be.

Statistics doesn't really indicate that. Sihanoukville visitor numbers have doubled from 2014 to 2019.

Whats your source for visitor numbers please ?

Until early 2017, Snooky was still ok but very quickly went downhill after that, its mid 2017-2020 when the big problems (Chinese destruction/development ) really started

Last year there was article on PPP or Khmertimes about specific tourist numbers in Sihanoukville city but cannot find it now. If I have time, I can find it for you.

But you can see from this Cambodia Tourism 2018 report visitor numbers in Coastal Area (Kampot, Kep, Koh Kong & Sihanoukville) in previous years and from this Khmer Times article you can find out that in 2019 the number for coastal area was 1,2 million. Majority of the tourist numbers in Coastal Areas are from Sihanoukville province.

And then you can look Sihanoukville airport passengers stats, from 100k in 2015 to 1,6 million in 2019.

Also you can check hotel booking sites or airbnb as they provide stats too and they show similar trends.

Local visits plummeted in 2019, that is true. But for this year numbers are up again, I believe back to 2017 level.

rogerrabbit wrote:Local visits plummeted in 2019, that is true. But for this year numbers are up again, I believe back to 2017 level.

How is this possible? There are border closures. Even outright bans from certain countries for a while. Even now, a visitor to the Kingdom of Wonder needs to spend a minimum of three weeks stay, bring three thousand on arrival, and have fifty thousand insurance. As well as a stamped test letter before flying.

Enough hoops that even the formerly eternal tourist
to the Kingdom of Wonder can’t get through.

I think the mainland Chinese are getting a special deal that Freshnews won’t be reporting on anytime soon.

newkidontheblock wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:29 am

rogerrabbit wrote:Local visits plummeted in 2019, that is true. But for this year numbers are up again, I believe back to 2017 level.

How is this possible? There are border closures. Even outright bans from certain countries for a while. Even now, a visitor to the Kingdom of Wonder needs to spend a minimum of three weeks stay, bring three thousand on arrival, and have fifty thousand insurance. As well as a stamped test letter before flying.

Enough hoops that even the formerly eternal tourist
to the Kingdom of Wonder can’t get through.

I think the mainland Chinese are getting a special deal that Freshnews won’t be reporting on anytime soon.

Sorry, in quoted phrase I meant only visits by locals are back up. International visitors for this year are of course very low because the reasons you stated.

Are individuals that suggest these infrastructure projects in SHK are completely wasteful, stupid and soon to be abandoned:

a) bitter
b) naive
c) missing the big picture?
d) correct



Has anyone looked at the development/timeline of the SHK "SEZ" or Special Economic Zone and the timeline of the "SEZ" in Shenzhen, China?

WineOxley wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:55 pm Are individuals that suggest these infrastructure projects in SHK are completely wasteful, stupid and soon to be abandoned:

a) bitter
b) naive
c) missing the big picture?
d) correct



Has anyone looked at the development/timeline of the SHK "SEZ" or Special Economic Zone and the timeline of the "SEZ" in Shenzhen, China?

Your answer is here :
https://southeastasiaglobe.com/how-to-r ... JtSe-VqlfU


Cambodia is not China, cambodians are not chinese, Sihanoukville is not Shenzen.

I guess best times for Snooky was BC 2700. No humans. Cobras and starry nights.