Wanting the Police Arrested...Geoge Floyd Case

Big Daikon · Post by **Big Daikon** » Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:16 pm

Actually, the law does permit cops to shoot a fleeing suspect under certain circumstances.
https://www.vox.com/identities/2016/8/1 ... ham-connor

phuketrichard · Post by **phuketrichard** » Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:19 pm

Big Daikon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:16 pm Actually, the law does permit cops to shoot a fleeing suspect under certain circumstances.
https://www.vox.com/identities/2016/8/1 ... ham-connor

He was NO risk to anyone so why shoot him to kill him? Up until they started to arrest him, he was very peaceful> Than he freaked

Rayshard Brooks police shooting was homicide, says medical examiner

An autopsy conducted on Sunday showed that Brooks, 27, died from blood loss and organ injuries caused by two gunshot wounds, an investigator for the medical examiner said in a statement. The manner of his death was homicide, the statement said.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... X6ifNakvr0

Big Daikon · Post by **Big Daikon** » Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:54 pm

What should the cops have done?

atst · Post by **atst** » Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:02 pm

Cop's should let anyone who doesn't want to be arrested go, then later go to their house and then if the guy still don't want to be arrested leave and go back to the station.

Pedroviera · Post by **Pedroviera** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:11 am

Big Daikon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:54 pm What should the cops have done?

Wow The guy possibly gets a walk if he pulls away from the drive through initially when asked....After cop told him to stay in his car how many times he wouldn't listen. Lied for 30 minutes. Not major infractions but sets the stage...But If assaulting 2 cops, resisting arrest, stealing a taser, and running away while pointing the taser don't qualify for a shooting what does? This don't be deserved same conversation as Floyd case not even close The actual fight scene can be seen from other video out there make sure watch that also adds even more evidence Acting very drunk for registering amounts he blew on breathalyzer. Don't matter much but I wonder if he was high too

newkidontheblock · Post by **newkidontheblock** » Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:56 am

atst wrote:Cop's should let anyone who doesn't want to be arrested go, then later go to their house and then if the guy still don't want to be arrested leave and go back to the station.

Every drug dealer and gang banger doesn’t want the police to arrest them. Doesn’t matter how many times police ask them politely not to peddle death and commit crime, they continue to do it. What’s the solution? Let them keep peddling meth and shoot up the neighborhood?

I am confused.

finish_money · Post by **finish_money** » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:28 am

phuketrichard wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:19 pm
Big Daikon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:16 pm Actually, the law does permit cops to shoot a fleeing suspect under certain circumstances.
https://www.vox.com/identities/2016/8/1 ... ham-connor
He was NO risk to anyone so why shoot him to kill him? Up until they started to arrest him, he was very peaceful> Than he freaked

Agree. There’s an 88 minute video of body cam footage that shows the entire thing starting from the moment he fell asleep in the drive thru window. He was drunk and it’s possible to argue whether being shot with a taser warrants a deadly response (I don’t believe so, especially when a person is running away). But what’s impossible to deny is that the man should still be alive. For whatever reason, instead of getting the man’s keys and then getting him home safely, the goal was to arrest him. And why is arresting people such a priority when a person is drunk, isn’t carrying any weapons of any kind, hasn’t demonstrated any behavior that would be considered dangerous, and also assuming you can successfully take their keys? This is what people are talking about when they say “defund the police.” Police budgets are severely bloated, and maybe we could have sent a social worker to the scene instead. It might not be the answer, but clearly we need to start doing things differently.

MikeD · Post by **MikeD** » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:45 am

finish_money wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:28 am
phuketrichard wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:19 pm
Big Daikon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:16 pm Actually, the law does permit cops to shoot a fleeing suspect under certain circumstances.
https://www.vox.com/identities/2016/8/1 ... ham-connor
He was NO risk to anyone so why shoot him to kill him? Up until they started to arrest him, he was very peaceful> Than he freaked

Agree. There’s an 88 minute video of body cam footage that shows the entire thing starting from the moment he fell asleep in the drive thru window. He was drunk and it’s possible to argue whether being shot with a taser warrants a deadly response (I don’t believe so, especially when a person is running away). But what’s impossible to deny is that the man should still be alive. For whatever reason, instead of getting the man’s keys and then getting him home safely, the goal was to arrest him. And why is arresting people such a priority when a person is drunk, isn’t carrying any weapons of any kind, hasn’t demonstrated any behavior that would be considered dangerous, and also assuming you can successfully take their keys? This is what people are talking about when they say “defund the police.” Police budgets are severely bloated, and maybe we could have sent a social worker to the scene instead. It might not be the answer, but clearly we need to start doing things differently.

Cops do not baby sit do they? Suspect needs to deploy the skill set just like what is needed in any other survival situation.

MikeD · Post by **MikeD** » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:03 am

Big Daikon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:16 pm Actually, the law does permit cops to shoot a fleeing suspect under certain circumstances.
https://www.vox.com/identities/2016/8/1 ... ham-connor

You know DA LAW! - Cops can shoot NOT when a threat is actually posed. Why? Multiple criminals can get cops in trouble by making cops run around where the arrest operation could then become compromised and lead to a deadly incident. Now will the cop go to jail?

finish_money · Post by **finish_money** » Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:42 am

MikeD wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:45 am
finish_money wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:28 am
phuketrichard wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:19 pm
Big Daikon wrote: ↑Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:16 pm Actually, the law does permit cops to shoot a fleeing suspect under certain circumstances.
https://www.vox.com/identities/2016/8/1 ... ham-connor
He was NO risk to anyone so why shoot him to kill him? Up until they started to arrest him, he was very peaceful> Than he freaked

Agree. There’s an 88 minute video of body cam footage that shows the entire thing starting from the moment he fell asleep in the drive thru window. He was drunk and it’s possible to argue whether being shot with a taser warrants a deadly response (I don’t believe so, especially when a person is running away). But what’s impossible to deny is that the man should still be alive. For whatever reason, instead of getting the man’s keys and then getting him home safely, the goal was to arrest him. And why is arresting people such a priority when a person is drunk, isn’t carrying any weapons of any kind, hasn’t demonstrated any behavior that would be considered dangerous, and also assuming you can successfully take their keys? This is what people are talking about when they say “defund the police.” Police budgets are severely bloated, and maybe we could have sent a social worker to the scene instead. It might not be the answer, but clearly we need to start doing things differently.
Cops do not baby sit do they? Suspect needs to deploy the skill set just like what is needed in any other survival situation.

I‘m not sure I understand, but my point is it’s the same argument about how our health care system is designed to mostly treat disease instead of prevent it. We need to figure out better ways to prevent people from dying in these police situations. Honestly it shouldn’t be a partisan issue.

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