One country, one system? Hong Kong
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No, the topic is about Hong Kong..from the OP post
Back on topic..China have decided to take control of Hong Kong's security
China's aggressive push for Hong Kong national security laws could lead to US sanctions, White House official says
Speaking with NBC News’ “Meet the Press,” O’Brien said China’s actions indicated the country was “going to basically take over Hong Kong,” which could spark economic retribution.
Last year, the US enacted the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act, a law requiring the State Department to ensure that Hong Kong’s “one country, two systems” agreement with China is upheld each year.
The law also requires the US government to impose sanctions against those responsible for human-rights abuses in Hong Kong.
Full story: https://www.businessinsider.com.au/hong ... use-2020-5
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Sorry about that boss. My bad.clutchcargo wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2020 6:57 pmNo, the topic is about Hong Kong..from the OP postChina have decided to take control of Hong Kong's security
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things are heating up.
one country...two systems could never work in the long run...
China is gong after everything that sets HK apart and its not going to end peacefully,,,
Hundreds arrested in HK as police crack down
one country...two systems could never work in the long run...
China is gong after everything that sets HK apart and its not going to end peacefully,,,
Hundreds arrested in HK as police crack down
https://asiatimes.com/2020/05/hundreds- ... d7ff190aa4Police tried to stop protests against a proposed law banning insults to China's national anthem
Riot control police in Hong Kong fired pepper-ball rounds and arrested hundreds as they cracked down on protests against a bill being heard in the legislature banning insults to China’s national anthem on Wednesday.
Hundreds of protesters had gathered in several districts on Hong Kong Island and Kowloon to oppose the national anthem bill, which was being discussed in the Legislative Council on Wednesday
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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Hong Kong's future as China's gateway to the West is under threat
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In essence, under US law that pre-dates the handover of Hong Kong by Britain to China in 1997, Hong Kong continues to be treated as if it were still a British-controlled territory. In recent times, for instance, that has meant that Hong Kong hasn’t been subjected to the tariffs the US has imposed on goods exported from China’s mainland.
If the US were to revoke Hong Kong’s special status – and it’s hard to see that not happening, given the now bi-partisan hostility towards China in the US and the impact of the fresh bouts of violence likely to erupt on Hong Kong’s streets in response to the new security laws – Hong Kong’s status as a globally significant financial centre and trade hub would be jeopardised.
All trade with the US, whether initiating within Hong Kong or transiting through it (some mainland trade has be re-routed through Hong Kong to avoid the US tariffs) would be captured by the US tariffs, and all capital flows would be more closely scrutinised and subjected to a US national security regime that is increasingly used as a weapon in America’s attempts to contain the growth in China’s economic and geopolitical influence.
Interesting article: full story https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/busine ... 54wv1.htmlIt shouldn’t, however, underestimate the influence of the China hawks within the Trump administration and the US more generally, or overestimate the sophistication of an "America First" president.
Trump’s senior economics adviser Larry Kudlow said China was making a "big mistake" and the administration would welcome back American companies from Hong Kong or the mainland.
"We will do what we can for full expensing and pay the cost of moving if they return their supply chains and their production to the United States," he said. Among proposals reportedly being considered by the Trump administration is a $US25 billion "re-shoring" fund, along with new local content rules.
Diminishing Hong Kong as a financial and trade centre and the acceptable doorway for western capital and trade with mainland China, and repatriating US investment and activity would fit neatly within the administration’s trade policies and Trump’s own prejudices about trade.
Unlike the trade war with China, however, this might well be the first important moment in the Trump presidency where he might be able to gather - rather than fragment - a coalition of the major western economies to act collectively against China’s decision to effectively tear up the agreement it signed with the UK in 1997 that guaranteed Hong Kong and its people a high degree of autonomy for half a century.
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Re: One country, one system? Hong Kong
Tibet; a country that China took over....
ask a Tibetan how they feel about living under Chinese domination
ask a Tibetan how they feel about living under Chinese domination
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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can't see why many Brits are complaining about this - I mean, they virtually all willingly, hell actually CLAMOURED FOR, totalitarian state control for the last 2 months -surely Britian and others should actively encourage this form of state dictatorship and dismissal of HARD WON freedoms
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China is set to pass a draconian new law in Hong Kong that would effectively stifle all dissent. Here's what could happen to people in the city.
China is moving to increase its control over Hong Kong with a new national-security law that have sparked a new round of protests in the city.
The law would erode the city’s autonomy and allow China to set up a formal secret police presence in the city.
A handful of individuals from Hong Kong have already been disappeared, detained, tortured, and tracked after China said they acted against its interests. The new laws could increase such instances.
Experts and some Hong Kong lawmakers say the new rules will effectively end the system of semi-autonomy which has existed in the city since 1997.
Full story: https://www.businessinsider.com.au/chin ... ork-2020-5
China is moving to increase its control over Hong Kong with a new national-security law that have sparked a new round of protests in the city.
The law would erode the city’s autonomy and allow China to set up a formal secret police presence in the city.
A handful of individuals from Hong Kong have already been disappeared, detained, tortured, and tracked after China said they acted against its interests. The new laws could increase such instances.
Experts and some Hong Kong lawmakers say the new rules will effectively end the system of semi-autonomy which has existed in the city since 1997.
Full story: https://www.businessinsider.com.au/chin ... ork-2020-5
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For someone who preaches about having an open mind and being so enlightened, that’s about a closed, narrow minded view as it gets.fazur wrote:i see.
denial.
bye.
As for the Tibetans. All media is controlled to deliver the same message. Tibetans will think what they have been told. If every news source reported the same thing, then there is no other way to know otherwise.
Poor Tibetans.
And soon to be poor Hong Kongers.
War is coming. Hopefully not in my lifetime.
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nkotb, you're entitled to your opinionnewkidontheblock wrote: ↑Thu May 28, 2020 10:57 pmFor someone who preaches about having an open mind and being so enlightened, that’s about a closed, narrow minded view as it gets.fazur wrote:i see.
denial.
bye.
but would you continue debating with someone who states the earth is flat or the holocaust never happened?
as soon as people deny established facts, rules of debate are broken, its over, no point
if you want to whitewash the british empire, go ahead, just not with me on my time
as an american u think they were wonderful? wow. great forgiveness there.
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there was never really any question it would pass;
https://www.thephuketnews.com/china-app ... OJrkmGtwzsChina’s parliament yesterday (May 28) approved plans to impose a security law on Hong Kong that has ratcheted up tensions with the US and sparked new protests over fears the city is losing its special freedoms.
The vote by the rubber-stamp National People’s Congress (NPC) spurred the US and Britain to call for the United Nations Security Council to meet informally today to discuss the issue.
And it came hours after Washington revoked the special status conferred on Hong Kong, paving the way for the territory to be stripped of trading and economic privileges.
In a nation run by swine, all pigs are upward-mobile and the rest of us are fucked until we can put our acts together: not necessarily to win, but mainly to keep from losing completely. HST
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