Jerry Atrick wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 6:26 pm

Kuroneko wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 10:44 am


Palm oil consumed as a dietary fat as a part of a healthy balanced diet does not have incremental risk for cardiovascular disease. Little or no additional benefit will be obtained by replacing it with other oils rich in mono or polyunsaturated fatty acids.

I'm very sure we've had a chat about this around seven or eight years ago, and you were not a fan of palm oil at that time.

SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 11:34 am Highly contested Kuroneko ^^^
Not least because the palm oil and processed food industry funds a lot of "research"
I searched for the funders of this paper and could not find ant indication - always a reason for caution.

There are many studies which point out very real dangers to human health caused by palm oil,particularly when processed - AND because of the way it is is farmed (leaving out the catastrophic impact on the environment itself)

"A considerable amount of the commonly used palm oil is in the oxidized state which possesses potential dangers to the physiological and biochemical functions of the body. Oxidation is as a result of processing the oil for various culinary purposes. Studies have revealed that relative to fresh palm oil, oxidized palm oil induces an adverse plasma lipid profile, free fatty acids, phospholipids and cerebrosides. Additionally, oxidized palm oil induces reproductive toxicity and organotoxicity particularly of the kidneys, lungs, liver and heart."
https://link.springer.com/article/10.10 ... 8089715153

Study in WHO journal likens palm oil lobbying to tobacco and alcohol industries
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKCN1P21ZT

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/sp ... 229468.ece#

"We highlight the industry’s mutually profitable relationship with the processed food industry and its impact on human and planetary health, including detrimental cultivation practices that are linked to respiratory illnesses, deforestation, loss of biodiversity and pollution. This analysis illustrates many parallels to the contested nature of practices adopted by the alcohol and tobacco industries. The article concludes with suggested actions for researchers, policy-makers and the global health community to address and mitigate the negative impacts of the palm oil industry on human and planetary health."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6357563/

etc etc etc

CryptoAddict_ wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 6:03 am Do you guys avoid palm oil and other vegetable oils? I’m leaving for Cambo soon and I’ve been reading a lot about palm oils causing massive heart attack around a 6 month period of heavy consumption and also other vegetable oils in Cambodia that will literally cause plaque in your artery and kill you very fast.

How do you guys avoid these dangerous oils? Do you just cook yourself and avoid them or what? Definitely stay away from palm Oil, you will die fast

SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 11:34 am Highly contested Kuroneko ^^^
Not least because the palm oil and processed food industry funds a lot of "research"
I searched for the funders of this paper and could not find ant indication - always a reason for caution.

There are many studies which point out very real dangers to human health caused by palm oil,particularly when processed - AND because of the way it is is farmed (leaving out the catastrophic impact on the environment itself)

"A considerable amount of the commonly used palm oil is in the oxidized state which possesses potential dangers to the physiological and biochemical functions of the body. Oxidation is as a result of processing the oil for various culinary purposes. Studies have revealed that relative to fresh palm oil, oxidized palm oil induces an adverse plasma lipid profile, free fatty acids, phospholipids and cerebrosides. Additionally, oxidized palm oil induces reproductive toxicity and organotoxicity particularly of the kidneys, lungs, liver and heart."
https://link.springer.com/article/10.10 ... 8089715153

Study in WHO journal likens palm oil lobbying to tobacco and alcohol industries
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKCN1P21ZT

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/sp ... 229468.ece#

"We highlight the industry’s mutually profitable relationship with the processed food industry and its impact on human and planetary health, including detrimental cultivation practices that are linked to respiratory illnesses, deforestation, loss of biodiversity and pollution. This analysis illustrates many parallels to the contested nature of practices adopted by the alcohol and tobacco industries. The article concludes with suggested actions for researchers, policy-makers and the global health community to address and mitigate the negative impacts of the palm oil industry on human and planetary health."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6357563/

etc etc etc

Kuroneko wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 10:44 am

CryptoAddict_ wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 6:03 am I’ve been reading a lot about palm oils causing massive heart attack around a 6 month period of heavy consumption and also other vegetable oils in Cambodia that will literally cause plaque in your artery and kill you very fast.

Cite your references for this assumption please.

Palm oil and the heart: A review World: Osaretin J Odia, Sandra Ofori, and Omosivie Maduka. J Cardiol. 2015 Mar 26; 7(3): 144–149.

Palm oil consumed as a dietary fat as a part of a healthy balanced diet does not have incremental risk for cardiovascular disease. Little or no additional benefit will be obtained by replacing it with other oils rich in mono or polyunsaturated fatty acids.

Therefore, in conclusion it is the opinion of the authors that palm oil consumed as a dietary fat as part of a healthy balanced diet does not have incremental risk for cardiovascular disease. Little or no additional benefit will be obtained by replacing it with other oils rich in mono or polyunsaturated fatty acids. We recognize that more longitudinal population-based studies are needed to fully characterize the impact of the consumption of diets, which utilize palm oil compared to other accepted “heart healthy” oils like olive oil on the future risk of heart disease using lipid parameters as intermediate markers of risk.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4365303/