Flexxman wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 8:38 pm My father taught me that dropping profanities and using other 'strong' language during a conversation or discussion does not help bringing your points across but rather does the opposite. It can often be observed in murricans who are of the LOO stereoype (Loud - Obnoxious - Obese).

BR549 wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 8:00 pmThe don't pay a living wage cut is typical bullshit from someone who doesn't know.

WildA wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 8:58 pm

Flexxman wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 8:38 pm My father taught me that dropping profanities and using other 'strong' language during a conversation or discussion does not help bringing your points across but rather does the opposite. It can often be observed in murricans who are of the LOO stereoype (Loud - Obnoxious - Obese).

What the fuck dude, are you the bloody forum etiquette police then? You think its only the shit for brains Yanks that curse like sailors, you even been to a Glaswegian Leather Bar during Leather Kilt Leapfrog night?

Hey like pardon the fuck out of me then, in the future, I will in fact make a genuine effort to compose my sentences using only language that suits the ears of the sensitive, so as not to piss anyone off. Guess I wont cite Petronious.

Electric Earth wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:23 pm

BR549 wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 8:00 pmThe don't pay a living wage cut is typical bullshit from someone who doesn't know.

No. Coming from someone who Definitely knows(bartended and managed in multiple successful restaurants). The living wage issue is very valid. It's bullshit and only still exists because the government is lobbied and paid to keep it that way. It's unacceptable to pay someone $3/hour. I, too, have had the experience that you have, where I've made good money from tips. I've also had a couple places that I didn't work too long where the tips were shit. And Lots of people have that issue. Your dad taught you to tip 15% back in the 60s. That's awesome(I mean that genuinely). The problem is lots of people are still tipping 10-15%, but the cost of living has gone up a lot. And then there are the douche-bags who don't tip. And there are the restaurants that are hole-in-the-wall cheap places where people eat a full meal for $8. That person is only making $1-$1.25 on that tip. So even if that server flips 40 meals, which is a good shift by many restaurant standards, they only walk with ~$40. No one can live on that. So yeah, there are plenty of people who can do alright on tips, but there are plenty more who struggle to pay their rent. And considering the price of a college degree in the US these days, along with the fact that most jobs that don't require a college degree have been moved overseas, it leaves a Lot of people stuck in the service industry relying on $3/hour and shit tips to try to live on. It's unacceptable. I'm glad it worked in the good ol' days, but things ain't what they used to be. I'd rather companies had to pay their workers a living wage so that I don't have to make up the difference in government assistance. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for government assistance for those who need it, but a whole lot less people would need it if our government weren't so corrupt.

newkidontheblock wrote: ↑Mon May 18, 2020 9:44 pm Europeans don’t tip. The nanny state has taken away the ability to reward going the extra mile by already padding the bill.

https://www.smartertravel.com/tipping- ... ing-guide/

Only stupid Americans (like me) tip for service. In my opinion, shit service doesn’t deserve a tip. Fantastic service deserve more.

I’m sure that someone on CEO will say that shit servers deserve to get an even bigger tip for their living wage and that I’m starving them to death.