Only people who have done time can deal with being in a developing county. Thai expats want to tell friends back home they're "exotic", but also want their favourite blend of Tesco coffee and access the all the usual western fast food chains.

Obviously I’m on the “Cambo is better” side of the coin; but to be fair to Thai expats, for many their only experience of Cambodia was a visa run to Poipet... so I see their point from that angle.#Shithole

My sister was one 20 years ago; when she finally got to Phnom Penh & Siem Reap, she changed her mind about Cambodia fairly quickly.

Bitte_Kein_Lexus wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 9:48 am Only people who have done time can deal with being in a developing county.

Hmm, I think I would prefer SE Asia to prison. But that's just me.

I joined this forum shortly after the Thai martial law, eh, lock down started. In conjunction with ME giving the TV forum the boot after those bunch of liberal nanny state pussies twice put me in 'time out' for expressing my opinions with vigor, I wanted to see what other forums were like. Surprisingly, the discussions here are normal and civil like a bunch of adults. Cool

Also wanted to start gathering info on Cambo in the event I decided Tland was going to become less friendly and accommodating, particularly with respect to the flu scam. My impressions after a lot of reading on this site and looking over real estate sites; Siem Reap looks pleasant enough. I see enough 1bd apartments at same or less than I pay in Tland yet they are more modern and a bit larger. And it wouldn't be so bad to free up the 800k thb from Thai bank visa hold requirement, and apparently at 62yrs young, a 1yr visa with 1yr increment renewals looks like it would be doable.

Funny, the Commandant of Chonburi province and Deal Leader General Prayut have made plenty of press about new restrictions, social-conditioning rules, and further travel restrictions. There's news of Thai CV vax medicine coming soon too. This has place has gone from a livable military pseudo govt to a full on military control state all on the CV scam. Sadly, it looks to me just from going out and around and watching, the Thai people are accepting their new restrictions as normal, (but I don't know if there is a segment of the pop that opposes).

Apparently Pattaya govt is considering (per an article in The Thaiger) requiring IDs for admittance to bars/clubs in order to facilitate contact tracing, screening required to enter walking street or other bar streets, and limiting the number of patrons allowed to enter a bar/club to facilitate social-conditioning. The last one won't be a problem as there are no tourists, and I doubt there will be any for the clubs/bars given these proposed new rules.

I don't go to bars/clubs and only infrequently to restaurants, so I would not be personally effected but the whole idea of these restrictions is full on NUTS. Now if Tland were to decide and require all people get a vax, that would be my cut off point. Heil Prayut and ByeBye... we'll see.

Sorry for the short rant... So, how's it currently looking in Cambodia re laws, restrictions, etc., and any thoughts on what follows?

Flu scam? You are serious?

Marty wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 9:18 am

SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:11 am I think it is a really dumb argument and anyone who engages in it is a fool.
Cambodia and expats in Cambodia are obviously far superior. everybody knows that.

It is a scientifically proven fact that both Cambodia and expats in Cambodia consistently rank at the very highest levels.

Care to elaborate? In BKK i never found any true expat friends, far and few between. Most of them looking to get one up on another - fake materialistic big city stuff. You know how that goes

Even for younger people 30s-40s in the expat scene good too?

BiggieBig wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 1:13 pm

Marty wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 9:18 am

SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:11 am I think it is a really dumb argument and anyone who engages in it is a fool.
Cambodia and expats in Cambodia are obviously far superior. everybody knows that.

It is a scientifically proven fact that both Cambodia and expats in Cambodia consistently rank at the very highest levels.

Care to elaborate? In BKK i never found any true expat friends, far and few between. Most of them looking to get one up on another - fake materialistic big city stuff. You know how that goes

Even for younger people 30s-40s in the expat scene good too?

I think he was being sarcastic.

But as a real answer, Im fat, old, nasty and retired and made some expat friends rather easily. Thats the 40 above educated financially secure scene.

BiggieBig wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 1:13 pm

Marty wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 9:18 am

SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:11 am I think it is a really dumb argument and anyone who engages in it is a fool.
Cambodia and expats in Cambodia are obviously far superior. everybody knows that.

It is a scientifically proven fact that both Cambodia and expats in Cambodia consistently rank at the very highest levels.

Care to elaborate? In BKK i never found any true expat friends, far and few between. Most of them looking to get one up on another - fake materialistic big city stuff. You know how that goes

Even for younger people 30s-40s in the expat scene good too?

IMO, Stern is being ironic/taking the piss/trying to be funny - because of course expats in Cambodia don't like being looked down on by Thai expats. All expats are not the same anyway.
As for Thailand vs Cambodia, it's a non-argument - each to their own. You can't compare apples and oranges.
I like the more relaxed and very un-western lifestyle in Cambodia, but that's me and what I like. Live how you want and don't tell others that it's 'better'. Even as expats, we are all diifferent.

....very un-western lifestyle in Cambodia...

surely ur not referring to PP where there is an overabundance of western style malls, clubs, bars, full service apts, gated communities with fancy villas, restaurants.
Its only the garbage and motos on the streets that make it still 3rd world

Both have there +'s and -'s