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It's all coming out now...

A French hospital that retested old samples from pneumonia patients has discovered that it treated a man with the coronavirus as early as 27 December, nearly a month before the French government confirmed its first cases.

Dr Yves Cohen, head of resuscitation at the Avicenne and Jean Verdier hospitals in the northern suburbs of Paris, told BFM TV that scientists had retested samples from 24 patients treated in December and January who tested negative for flu.

“Of the 24, we had one who was positive for Covid-19 on 27 December,” he told the news channel on Sunday.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... r-retested
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How very not surprising at all...
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Makes this global home imprisonment experiment look even more futile and reckless.
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I know lots of people, including me, who were ill around Christmas. I was fluey and exhausted, I’d love to get a test to see if it was the virus.
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rozzieoz wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 10:33 am I know lots of people, including me, who were ill around Christmas. I was fluey and exhausted, I’d love to get a test to see if it was the virus.
Is it possible to have a test too look back? It surprises me how many have said this at the time, being ill and saying it was more then likely the virus, if it was the virus then you would be alongside the other 80% who would recover. What would worry me most about such thoughts is who I had passed it on to at the time, and hoping they were okay.
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AndyKK wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 11:42 am
rozzieoz wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 10:33 am I know lots of people, including me, who were ill around Christmas. I was fluey and exhausted, I’d love to get a test to see if it was the virus.
Is it possible to have a test too look back? It surprises me how many have said this at the time, being ill and saying it was more then likely the virus, if it was the virus then you would be alongside the other 80% who would recover. What would worry me most about such thoughts is who I had passed it on to at the time, and hoping they were okay.
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Cambodia was rancid with flu like symptoms from mid November until at least the end of Jan. Just about everyone was sick everywhere you went at one point. Word in November was that it was a flu that had come from Vietnam.

I have a note from January that I had a rasping cough (which I don't actually remember) and a burning fever. I do remember the fever because my chest was very hot to touch, and my glasses would steam up totally if I breathed on them.

Thailand and Vietnam were also suffering in December and January.
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rozzieoz wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 10:33 am I know lots of people, including me, who were ill around Christmas. I was fluey and exhausted, I’d love to get a test to see if it was the virus.
I had a bad flu at the end of January ,, it seemed a different flu to what i would have expected and although it does not seem so long ago , even then no-one was expecting it to be what it has turned out to be.

Fast forward

When I arrived back in OZ in mid March , I asked my Dr if I could have a test done for anti-bodies to the virus, and was told there were no test available.
I asked a second time a week later and was told the Corona virus does not leave any anti-bodies.
A few days age I asked at a different Doctors Consultancy and was told simply cannot be done.

Today I was going near the Gold Coast University Hospital where they have a special area set up to do testing for Corona Virus . Went through all the questions etc, only to be told NO, they cannot do testing for the anti-bodies
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There are tests available, but they’re expensive and scarce and they won’t use them to satisfy the curiosity of individuals about whether or not that fever was caused by this new virus or not. They probably save them for randomized studies so they are able to extrapolate the data.
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Duncan wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 1:46 pm
rozzieoz wrote: Wed May 06, 2020 10:33 am I know lots of people, including me, who were ill around Christmas. I was fluey and exhausted, I’d love to get a test to see if it was the virus.
I had a bad flu at the end of January ,, it seemed a different flu to what i would have expected and although it does not seem so long ago , even then no-one was expecting it to be what it has turned out to be.

Fast forward

When I arrived back in OZ in mid March , I asked my Dr if I could have a test done for anti-bodies to the virus, and was told there were no test available.
I asked a second time a week later and was told the Corona virus does not leave any anti-bodies.
A few days age I asked at a different Doctors Consultancy and was told simply cannot be done.

Today I was going near the Gold Coast University Hospital where they have a special area set up to do testing for Corona Virus . Went through all the questions etc, only to be told NO, they cannot do testing for the anti-bodies
There are tests, just lab based at the moment. I think there will be many good ones in a few months/end of the year.

Coronavirus: New antibody test ‘with 99 per cent accuracy’ approved for use across Europe

A new antibody test to check whether someone has been infected with coronavirus, and said to be 99 per cent accurate, has been certified for use across Europe.

Global diagnostics specialists Abbott, which has a UK base in Maidenhead, has said it is expecting to have shipped millions of the laboratory based lab tests across Europe by the end of May.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/heal ... 90026.html
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