Doc67 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:59 pm It's one of the golden rules in the KOW that you never get involved with Khmer -on -Khmer punch ups. Even, and especially, where there are women involved.

WineOxley wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:18 pm

bestsmile wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:53 am Attacks by Cambodian: SETHBO BOAT trip on river.

3 days ago in Phnom Penh opposite the Night Market, only 3 tourists and 4 cambodians went on a boat trip on the river. We paid 5 USD ie 20000riel for a one hour trip on the river but Cambodians only paid 5000 riel. The boat departed 10 mins late and returned only after 10 minutes downriver despite having paid for 1 hour as it was written on their signs. There was nothing wrong with the boat or engine so one of the lady tourist complained to the captain about the short trip. He referred us to the ticket seller. The Cambodians also complained. The lady got into an argument with him (both dont understand each other) demanding a refund of 5USD. The owner raised his voice and fist to beat the lady. I intervened to stop him from hitting her then 2 of his female assistants selling tickets became involved and hit the woman tourists several times. One of the female assistant took a plastic chair to smash the woman tourist on the head. I intervened to take the plastic chair away. The boat captain then came behind me and hit me on the back of my head and then the face.
When we returned to the hotel to report the matter to management and hopefully get police involvement, we were told that we had to pay the police 20USD to make a report and management said that most likely the police would ask the boat owner to pay them 20 USD and the matter is then resolved ie police profit 40USD and no refund to tourists.

This is Cambodian justice we have experienced. Tourists are advised by locals that police involvement will not only cost more but result in no action taken.

Yeah look, this is now your responsibility to follow this up with the Tourist Police. Gathering witnesses and evidence too.

Impotence in the form of inaction is dangerous for future tourists who use same boat service.

Kammekor wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:31 pm

bestsmile wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:20 pm

Doc67 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:59 pm It's one of the golden rules in the KOW that you never get involved with Khmer -on -Khmer punch ups. Even, and especially, where there are women involved.

Whenever 2 persons attempt to smash another person's head with a chair ie potential for serious injuries ===== the duty is to help prevent it. This is a case of one male owner attacking a female tourist and then when stopped, 2 other female ticket sellers attacked the woman tourist.

Don’t forget you’re in a foreign country. You don’t speak the language. You don’t know how it is (dis)organized. So keeping a low profile is usually smarter than letting things get out hand, even if you feel you are right and even if you feel like it’s the right thing to do. Claiming your rights can be pretty difficult in Cambodia, but I guess you found out by now.

Having people smashed up for 5 bucks is never a good idea.

Brody wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:05 pm You might want to try the tourist police.

I think they are dedicated to assisting foreign tourists in matters like this.

Get as many witnesses / victims of this fraud/assault and battery as possible. The more Khmer the better.

You may not encounter as much bureaucratic resistance (ie, no action until bribe is paid) with the tourist police, I think, because they might be aware that foreign tourists are unaccustomed to the level of overt corruption in the police / legal system in Cambodia

The sooner you act, the better.

Don't let these mongrel boat owners/staff think that putting hands on customers will go unchallenged.

1- Tourist Police - Phnom Penh

Phone: 012 942 484
Address: St. 598, 12107, Phnom Penh

frizzie77 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:47 am I'm having a bit of a problem with OP's post.

First: why wait 3 days to post the 'incident' here?

Furthermore, if it happened the way described (incl. Cambodians complaining) there should be some video of this incident. Don't tell me Cambodians (or tourists for that matter) don't immediately get their phone's camera running when something like described happens right in front of them and put it on their Facebook account.

Then, there's no complaint on the Facebook page of said boat company: https://www.facebook.com/Sethbo-boat-to ... 890210342/

And on top of all that, OP apparently poses as 'a tourist'. So why is OP also interested in renting a property in Phnom Penh (and by the way, posting that within 40 minutes of the original post at the top of this thread)? See here: post414572.html#p414572

I have a feeling there's something going on, not being told...