NZ, Australia - into winter with Covid-19

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Doc67 wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:43 am
SternAAlbifrons wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:01 am
xandreu wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 5:43 pm In may ways, this virus is the most socialist thing to happen to the world since the cold war.
You said it perfectly for me, Xanadu, and for most Australians i believe.
Be honest Uncle Stern, he had you at "socialist" didn't he? :D
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Username Taken wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:24 am
violet wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 1:29 am That 1000 bed facility in QLD suggests the premier sees quarantine being the norm for some time to come and is not going to open up any time soon.

And she has commenced this at a time when home quarantine was to be trialled by another state.

It’s depressing. Actually depressing.
That, along with the Commonwealth owned facility at Pinkenba, which is right alongside the Brisbane airport, both are to be up an running by March next year. (When, exactly, were they planning to open up the country?)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-07/ ... /100350652
That's the million dollar question. There is a 'plan' for opening up. I use quotation marks because a 'plan' is not a plan if it doesn't have dates. Without that it is a goal/outcomes statement..

Scomo has said that when the population reaches 70% vaccination, restrictions can start being removed according to the plan. This is based on modelling from the Doherty Institute a private organisation. The opposition is pushing for 80% which is based on modelling by Evatt Foundation an organisation that upholds the labour movement.

As I understand it, quarantine is a federal responsibility although responsibility for running the quarantine centres has been given to the states. So, I think technically Scomo could decide to abolish the requirement for quarantine in gov't designated facilities and allow home quarantine for example. OTOH the states control the state borders, who they allow across it and other restrictions like local lockdowns et al.

So this is going to be interesting to see how it pans out in terms of state/federal response. At times I feel Australia is like several different countries at the moment...all with the own agenda (political and otherwise) with border controls and restrictions. I hope the states and fed can put aside their differences and unite for the common good.
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I sense a whiff of election in the air

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foreshadowing?
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wear your make or else, and the media spin

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That's the Eureka flag. The flag from the Gold Miners rebellion of 1854.
What was originally a symbol for all Australian as a celebration of the good socialist, independent, oppression-resisting, egalitarian, hard working, very real Australian values - but has now been appropriated by the Far White.
He looks like a very crude provocateur to me.
(but i can't say for sure because i don't intend to "study" it any further than the qik scan i just did)

If so, that fits with the warnings i have been making about the Far White hopping on the anti-mask, anti suppression, anti-vax bandwagon.
It's a thing for sure. the loonie Right's bullshit cries of "Police State!!"
(lol, that's why i get so jumpy when Clutch makes his far more reasonable case for loosening up the restrictions)

But i agree with you Atts, and half agree with Big D - the mainstream commercial media is garbage.
A big part of the problem is that so much of Au's media is owned and controlled by the the Dirty Digger, that evil little gnome, and so the brave new Post-Fact Fox World is creeping into even sensible and good BS-detecting Australia nowadays.

(my answer of course is to go to ABC and SBS and the couple of remaining traditional journalism newspapers. Even there, opinion is overtaking reporting, but at least it is fairly rational.
Others turn elsewhere)
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Against all odds: how New Zealand is bending the Delta curve
The country’s goal of eliminating Covid transmission looks within reach – but health experts’ optimism is cautious
Tess McClure in Christchurch
Fri 10 Sep 2021 23.43 BST
Less than a month ago, New Zealanders disappeared into their homes, retracting from the public domain like spilled water into a dry sponge. The motorways and city streets stood mostly empty, shops closed, schools and playgrounds were deserted. A single case of the highly contagious Delta variant had been detected and the government called a snap level-4 lockdown, introducing some of the strictest restrictions in the world.

It was a new threat for a country whose Covid-zero pandemic response had been ranked one of the best globally. New Zealand had never faced a Delta outbreak before, and no one knew if its past strategies would prove up to the task.

Across the Tasman, a bleak picture was emerging: Australia, like New Zealand, had maintained a zero-Covid elimination strategy throughout the first year of the pandemic but was now struggling with outbreaks in New South Wales and Victoria. Both countries had less than a third of their total populations immunised. With cases in NSW now regularly hitting more than 1,400 a day, the state provided a stark worst-case scenario of what New Zealand might see.

But now, against all odds, New Zealand is bending the Delta curve.

“It’s looking very good for ending this outbreak,” says Prof Michael Baker, an epidemiologist and public health expert. “I wouldn’t say ‘absolute certainty’, but it’s now far more a matter of when, rather than if.”

Left alone or managed half-heartedly, the Delta variant’s exponential growth quickly turns a trend line vertical. For many countries in the midst of outbreaks, the goal is to change that precipice to an incline – distributing the peak over a longer period so that health systems don’t collapse, resulting in needless deaths. In New Zealand, and for a few other Covid-zero Asia-Pacific states, the goal is more ambitious. They aimed to not only ease down the growth line, but to bend the curve completely, forcing case numbers back to zero and wiping out transmission completely. Today, just under a month from when the variant arrived in New Zealand, that goal suddenly looks within reach.
Full article: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... elta-curve
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As COVID-19 cases rise, it was reported that a hospital visitor in New Zealand had sex with a patient, much to the chagrin of the country’s prime minister



Full: https://www.businessinsider.com.au/new- ... ent-2021-9
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Auckland still in level4 lockdown Butchers, bakers,takeaways closed and MIQ for NZers returning home suspended,meanwhile the English netball team has flown in for a 3 games series, but don't panic kiwis the 4 Auckland players stranded in Auckland due to lockdowns are allowed to travel today to Christchurch to meet up with thier team mates just in time for Mondays game.
And the government wonders why people get clinical and follow conspiracy theories :facepalm:
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atst wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 3:52 am
And the government wonders why people get clinical..
cynical?

as in Diogenes? :hattip:
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