Alex wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:37 pm

pczz wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:57 am When it gets a grip in Cambodia, with bugger all health care it will be devastating with the potential to kill more than the Khmer Rouge.

That's an outlandish claim. Even if the entire population got infected (not going to happen) and none of them had access to any healthcare at the level required (which might be close to reality), COVID-19 still wouldn't kill anywhere near that number of people. Simply because too many cases are mild or even asymptomatic - especially in most young people, and Cambodia's population is very young.

assuming the virus doesnt mutate to a more virulent form

from what i understand viruses constantly mutate, but am not a doctor. am i wrong?

No one I know is being a cry baby - we are all trying to make the most of the situation and encouraging one another as much as possible.

No one is a cry baby, 3 of my family work for the NHS and another 684 died yesterday in the UK.....I am just worried for my family as they are working in a dangerous situation.

Alex wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:37 pm

pczz wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:57 am When it gets a grip in Cambodia, with bugger all health care it will be devastating with the potential to kill more than the Khmer Rouge.

That's an outlandish claim. Even if the entire population got infected (not going to happen) and none of them had access to any healthcare at the level required (which might be close to reality), COVID-19 still wouldn't kill anywhere near that number of people. Simply because too many cases are mild or even asymptomatic - especially in most young people, and Cambodia's population is very young.

Current death are doubleing about every 3 days in uk and us and that is with advanced healthcare and respirators and oxygen, sedation and so on
Detah rate is estiated at between 1.5 and 3% of the infected, bt not all countries are declaring properly. UK for example onlydecaes hospital deaths daily, not deaths at home or in care homes. This rises to an awful number and the trajectory is similarin all developed countries. without the equipent Cambodia will have a much higher death rate. wait and see. I said it has the potential, I did not say it definitely would. And there are other issues, like getting sick people to hospitals or clinics from villages in the rainy season. i would expect at least double the deathrate that is occurring in the uk.

fazur wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:36 pm

Alex wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:37 pm

pczz wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:57 am When it gets a grip in Cambodia, with bugger all health care it will be devastating with the potential to kill more than the Khmer Rouge.

That's an outlandish claim. Even if the entire population got infected (not going to happen) and none of them had access to any healthcare at the level required (which might be close to reality), COVID-19 still wouldn't kill anywhere near that number of people. Simply because too many cases are mild or even asymptomatic - especially in most young people, and Cambodia's population is very young.

assuming the virus doesnt mutate to a more virulent form

from what i understand viruses constantly mutate, but am not a doctor. am i wrong?

With no testing, no cases can be found. Even people dying from respiratory disease in hospital are not being tested here in Cambodia.
I've seen many news article and expert say they thought SE had much more cases and death than it is reported due to lack of testing.
All spread simulation shows that the country should already be overran with the disease. The number of people testing positive when flying out of cambodia, towards countries with more testing capacities should be somewhat of a clue as well.

Different viruses mutate at different rates. We are barely scratching the surface when it comes to mutation, but the results so far are not too scary.
Unless the mutations turn this virus into a long-term virus (which is unlikely almost to the point of assuming it's impossible in the family "coronavirus" as far as I know) Higher fatality of a strain would most likely make it less contagious (looking at other short term viruses)
Mutation cannot easily be taken into account, it's too early, it's just a scary unknown, but so far so good. Mutation can also play in our favor.

pczz wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:25 am

Alex wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:37 pm

pczz wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:57 am When it gets a grip in Cambodia, with bugger all health care it will be devastating with the potential to kill more than the Khmer Rouge.

That's an outlandish claim. Even if the entire population got infected (not going to happen) and none of them had access to any healthcare at the level required (which might be close to reality), COVID-19 still wouldn't kill anywhere near that number of people. Simply because too many cases are mild or even asymptomatic - especially in most young people, and Cambodia's population is very young.

Current death are doubleing about every 3 days in uk and us and that is with advanced healthcare and respirators and oxygen, sedation and so on
Detah rate is estiated at between 1.5 and 3% of the infected, bt not all countries are declaring properly. UK for example onlydecaes hospital deaths daily, not deaths at home or in care homes. This rises to an awful number and the trajectory is similarin all developed countries. without the equipent Cambodia will have a much higher death rate. wait and see. I said it has the potential, I did not say it definitely would. And there are other issues, like getting sick people to hospitals or clinics from villages in the rainy season. i would expect at least double the deathrate that is occurring in the uk.

I don't think Cambodia will ever start to spike to numbers anywhere close to Europe or US.

Half of China have been living in Cambodia for years and I can't see how neighboring countries aren't living through the worst of it now.

I know someone said millions would be struggling. This post was only directed at foreigners and most in Cambodia surely have monthly retirement money or worked for a big company and can afford to live in a cheap country.

Must be a hard time for tourists and teflers.

rozzieoz wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:30 pm No one I know is being a cry baby - we are all trying to make the most of the situation and encouraging one another as much as possible.

What?? You literally posted this two days ago:

rozzieoz wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:23 am
So today I did exactly the same as I have always done and the payment went through from the sender end, the money left my bank account.
Except Western Union didn't have the receiver's middle name on their printout. My middle name.
I showed them my passport photo, showing them it's me, my photo, my name. But they just refused to budge.
And then I burst into tears which NEVER helps a situation in this country.

SiemReapRoddy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:38 am [

I know someone said millions would be struggling. This post was only directed at foreigners and most in Cambodia surely have monthly retirement money or worked for a big company and can afford to live in a cheap country.

Must be a hard time for tourists and teflers.

Most of the long termers are Teflers though, so what do you suggest they do?

SiemReapRoddy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:38 amThis post was only directed at foreigners and most in Cambodia surely have monthly retirement money or worked for a big company and can afford to live in a cheap country.

hahahha if i had a dollar for every expat i have lent money

they are here bcoz its cheap

why do people like cheap locations, bcoz thyre broke