Are people starting to become cry babies?
Re: Are people starting to become cry babies?
They are making it up as they go along. They haven't even got an approved test for the anti-bodies yet. They may have the chemicals to make the reagents for the tests, but the UK does not have the manufacturing capacity (yet) to make the tests. We are buying them from China FFS. It's national embarrassment.CEOCambodiaNews wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:21 pmRead again.SiemReapRoddy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:08 pmLooks like it will be over before then if you believe anything the UK health secretary says.SiemReapRoddy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:38 pm Very stoic of you.
I'm guessing end of July things will ease up.
Until then...
Apparently testing for everyone and antibody certificates soon.
I'm sure it will roll out to Asian countries before the end of May.
Time to wipe my tears away.
Unfortunately, there are not enough coronavirus tests for everyone in the UK, including health workers, and the antibody tests are nowhere near ready for approval.
No 10 seeks to end coronavirus lockdown with 'immunity passports'
Fresh criticism over testing plan as Matt Hancock says early antibody results ‘poor’
Rowena Mason, Rajeev Syal and Dan Sabbagh
Last modified on Thu 2 Apr 2020 22.50 BST
No 10 is facing fresh questions over its coronavirus testing plan, as it emerged that the government is hoping to exit the lockdown through controversial “immunity passports” and antibody tests that are still not proven to work.
In the face of intense criticism, the health secretary, Matt Hancock, on Thursday admitted for the first time that mistakes had been made. “There will be criticisms made, and some of them will be justified,” he told the daily press briefing.
Hancock revealed that certificates to prove someone is immune to the virus could allow some of the population to go back to work, as he made a new pledge to complete 100,000 tests a day in England by the end of the month.
He attempted to relaunch the government’s strategy while Boris Johnson remains unwell in self-isolation, after a week of pressure about why so few tests are being carried out, especially on NHS workers.
Hancock promised that tests would be expanded from hospital patients and medics to more NHS staff, key workers and finally more people in the community. These will be a combination of tests for live cases of the virus and antibody tests to determine whether someone has previously been infected. Germany is carrying out around 70,000 tests a day, all for live cases of Covid-19.
However, the government was also forced to acknowledge it was not likely to have the capacity to embark on a programme of mass testing for live cases in the general public, as advocated by the World Health Organization and public experts.
Instead, No 10 and health department sources confirmed the general public would primarily have to rely on the potential for an antibody test – but these are “ideally” done 28 days after an infection, to give the clearest indication of whether someone has already had the virus, according to Prof John Newton, a senior Public Health England official.
Newton said the idea of testing all those that have symptoms in the country was “unrealistic” and the as yet unproven antibody test was more likely to be used by people at home.
Hancock said work was progressing with the antibody tests but that the results of many of the early tests had been “poor” and he was more hopeful about later ones that have been acquired. The government has bought options on up to 17.5m antibody tests of different types that are currently being tested, but cannot say definitively when they will be safe to use.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -passports
The idea of a certificate or passport was, iirc, an idea in a question by one of the journalists. Maybe they have been watching Contagion and saw the wristbands with a bar code and thought that's a great idea.
There are so many people in the UK who have had what appears to be Covid-19 and shows symptoms but nothing like serious enough to go near a hospital. There are those who were asymptomatic. It's been around for a long time.
The governments constantly repeated mantra, which is getting very boring and beginning to sound like a brain washing exercise, is: Stay at Home, Protect the NHS, Save Lives.
This isn't going to last more than a few weeks especially after the government has now sets itself very low targets for testing and will no doubt fail to achieve them. Incompetent 3rd raters who are too busy playing politics with their windbag speeches at 5pm instead of leading and governing and getting results. People are losing faith rapidly. The catastrophic economic numbers (no longer forecasts) are coming in now and they are terrible and set to get even worse.
The mantra could soon become: Go back to work, Protect the Economy, Save your Family.
Re: Are people starting to become cry babies?
'Immunity Passports' - sounds kind of Orewellian/totallitarian stuff - little different from a 'permit to do anything'.
What next, passbooks, electronic tags etc..?
What next, passbooks, electronic tags etc..?
Re: Are people starting to become cry babies?
Even better, GPS tracking.
Leave your phone at home or take the SIM card out. Use Wi-Fi only.
Re: Are people starting to become cry babies?
for sure, I've just turned off location and Google travel etc..
give it a few months and the cops will have the powers to look into all that - Big Brother no thanks!
give it a few months and the cops will have the powers to look into all that - Big Brother no thanks!
Re: Are people starting to become cry babies?
That's an outlandish claim. Even if the entire population got infected (not going to happen) and none of them had access to any healthcare at the level required (which might be close to reality), COVID-19 still wouldn't kill anywhere near that number of people. Simply because too many cases are mild or even asymptomatic - especially in most young people, and Cambodia's population is very young.
Re: Are people starting to become cry babies?
That's not enough... It's the provider's data they (will) use to know where you are. As long as you phone is switched on and connected to the GSM grid you're on their radar.
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Re: Are people starting to become cry babies?
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Don't worry, Cambodia or Thailand would never do anything like that.SiemReapRoddy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:54 pmThat is happening in US (one city at least).
To give them a rough idea of how many people are staying home.
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If I do go into hiding I'll definitely need to throw my sim card away first.
Re: Are people starting to become cry babies?
1. wrongSiemReapRoddy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:14 pm 1. People in Cambodia are probably on long term visas that don't run out for months.
2. I know there must be some people in a really bad situation, but I think most should forget about the virus.
2. 'some' people? Like a million? forget about the virus?
am also an optimist but if I see a truck headed my way I move.
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