Patient ZERO for Covid19 FOUND!
- SternAAlbifrons
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Re: Patient ZERO for Covid19 FOUND!
I know what you mean about being defensive BigNog. I can understand that.
But did you ever hear the story of the boy who cried wolf?
I gotta admit i did not listen to this before throwing in my spinning-top wisecrack. The reason is because you have previously posted so much discredited stuff before. (in my view)
This ^^^ post directly contradicts some of your previous pseudo- science, pseudo investigative, reports which point to SARS-2 being a human developed bio-weapon.
I have made a point of jumping on this kind of stuff straight away because i believe it not only to be wrong, but to be dangerous.
- and because i believe in Science, in the scientific method, in not cherry picking dispersant facts and spinning them into conspiracy theories. In getting "facts" correct. In not quoting "experts" who are not.
I stand by my case in every other de-bunking of your posts i have made.
However this ^^^ is definitely of a different order. Very credible, and it points to what all the (authentic) epidemiologists and geneticists know is true - it came originally from bats. Not a human engineered bio-weapon.
Going back to the boy who cried wolf - after posting stuff like that totally incorrect post about Nature magazine. After posting so much bull dust from self proclaimed experts which flies in the face of actual science. After making a case that it is a bio-weapon, which has been utterly discredited - can you understand why i automatically assumed that this ^^^ was of the same ilk?
After posting in the past couple of days a rambling 2.56 hours conversation of non-scientific wild conspiracy theories, can you understand why i i did not bother to listen to this ^^^.
The reason i did was because a couple of members who have credibility in my eyes gave it some validity. ( Nuke, who i often strongly disagree with philosophically, but still respect, and Phnom Poon.)
To be honest BigNog, and i don't say this as an insult, you have a long way to go before establishing reliability/credibility in my my eyes. Admitting that this rational case ^^^ directly contradicts some of your other stuff would be a good start.
I any case, i have always enjoyed the contest with you.
But did you ever hear the story of the boy who cried wolf?
I gotta admit i did not listen to this before throwing in my spinning-top wisecrack. The reason is because you have previously posted so much discredited stuff before. (in my view)
This ^^^ post directly contradicts some of your previous pseudo- science, pseudo investigative, reports which point to SARS-2 being a human developed bio-weapon.
I have made a point of jumping on this kind of stuff straight away because i believe it not only to be wrong, but to be dangerous.
- and because i believe in Science, in the scientific method, in not cherry picking dispersant facts and spinning them into conspiracy theories. In getting "facts" correct. In not quoting "experts" who are not.
I stand by my case in every other de-bunking of your posts i have made.
However this ^^^ is definitely of a different order. Very credible, and it points to what all the (authentic) epidemiologists and geneticists know is true - it came originally from bats. Not a human engineered bio-weapon.
Going back to the boy who cried wolf - after posting stuff like that totally incorrect post about Nature magazine. After posting so much bull dust from self proclaimed experts which flies in the face of actual science. After making a case that it is a bio-weapon, which has been utterly discredited - can you understand why i automatically assumed that this ^^^ was of the same ilk?
After posting in the past couple of days a rambling 2.56 hours conversation of non-scientific wild conspiracy theories, can you understand why i i did not bother to listen to this ^^^.
The reason i did was because a couple of members who have credibility in my eyes gave it some validity. ( Nuke, who i often strongly disagree with philosophically, but still respect, and Phnom Poon.)
To be honest BigNog, and i don't say this as an insult, you have a long way to go before establishing reliability/credibility in my my eyes. Admitting that this rational case ^^^ directly contradicts some of your other stuff would be a good start.
I any case, i have always enjoyed the contest with you.
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Re: Patient ZERO for Covid19 FOUND!
[/quote] Thanks. That's C-Milk, he does vids with Sepentza, a famous China YouTuber from SA. It seems credible.
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So, that changes the facts?
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I ain't with you. I just meant that there is some plausibility to the case he presents, and having viewed a few of his YT vids he strikes me as authentic and of integrity.
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Sorry, my bad. Missed the "Thanks".
I am in a defense mode on here due to so many people who immediately attack my posts by attacking the character of the people who are giving the information in the video. Yeah, C-Milk is a straightforward guy and not into conspiracy theories and stuff like that. Again, my bad. Thanks for helping me understand what you meant to say.
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No sweat. It would be a refreshing change if we were all just civil to one another.
Anyway, hopefully his evidence will help appease the anti-Chinese sentiment and finger pointing.
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So, that changes the facts?
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I ain't with you. I just meant that there is some plausibility to the case he presents, and having viewed a few of his YT vids he strikes me as authentic and of integrity.
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Sorry, my bad. Missed the "Thanks".
I am in a defense mode on here due to so many people who immediately attack my posts by attacking the character of the people who are giving the information in the video. Yeah, C-Milk is a straightforward guy and not into conspiracy theories and stuff like that. Again, my bad. Thanks for helping me understand what you meant to say.
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No sweat. It would be a refreshing change if we were all just civil to one another.
Anyway, hopefully his evidence will help appease the anti-Chinese sentiment and finger pointing.
Re: Patient ZERO for Covid19 FOUND!
I'm not a YouTuber at all. Recently subscribed to an American guy's Vietnam reports, which are thoughtful and not just clickbait.
But this guy's video from China, posted by Big'n, is a good example of journalistic digging and research. He presents his work straight-forwardly, leaving you to judge it.
I'm not sure if I posted here this fresh Scientific American article on China's batwoman, which the video guy references. Very informative about the doctor's incredible work nailing down the bat source of coronaviruses.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... onavirus1/
Anyway, I believe this C-Milk guy has some good info.
But this guy's video from China, posted by Big'n, is a good example of journalistic digging and research. He presents his work straight-forwardly, leaving you to judge it.
I'm not sure if I posted here this fresh Scientific American article on China's batwoman, which the video guy references. Very informative about the doctor's incredible work nailing down the bat source of coronaviruses.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... onavirus1/
Anyway, I believe this C-Milk guy has some good info.
- SternAAlbifrons
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Re: Patient ZERO for Covid19 FOUND!
Excellent work. I love this stuff.
Scientist have been warning about a Sars-2/Covid-19 since the 1990's.
And the west has been left with it pants down,
wilfully negligent in relying on China for crucial medical supplies (and nearly everything else)
Don't come to me with any of this "look at what China has done to us" victim mentality.
"We" were fully warned by scientist that this would happen, and we let it.
PS, Is anybody still saying it is a bio-weapon?
Scientist have been warning about a Sars-2/Covid-19 since the 1990's.
And the west has been left with it pants down,
wilfully negligent in relying on China for crucial medical supplies (and nearly everything else)
Don't come to me with any of this "look at what China has done to us" victim mentality.
"We" were fully warned by scientist that this would happen, and we let it.
PS, Is anybody still saying it is a bio-weapon?
Re: Patient ZERO for Covid19 FOUND!
west also guilty of regarding even basic healthcare facilities as socialism
they neglect schools, hospitals, any social service and divert funds to things that benefit on a few
they neglect schools, hospitals, any social service and divert funds to things that benefit on a few
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Re: Patient ZERO for Covid19 FOUND!
This is credible. For one thing, you can guarantee that C-Milk has accurately translated all this stuff. The story is in line with current events, and it's not some ranting about bioweapons or anything like that. Here's an article from the National Review that does a bit of fact-checking on the video in question.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/ ... uhan-labs/
https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/ ... uhan-labs/
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