SiemReapRoddy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:42 pm I guess this applies to every country in the world as opposed to just Cambodia, but it will happen here too (probably worse when you look at the numbers)

A couple of quick examples before we start:

1 - A young girl in the UK commited suicide because she couldn't handle the thought of being in lockdown alone.
2 - A nurse commited suicide because she was ashamed she might have passed COVID-19 onto her patients.

If the world keeps these lockdowns in place long term at the expense of the ecomony, do you think we'll see the number of suicides reach the number or COVID-19 deaths due to people not being able to pay their bills, feed their kids, save their marriage, ect?

At what point do we need to realize saving the ecomony isn't just about not losing money, but saving the lives of people who will commit suicide + stopping millions of people from becoming completely destitute?

Cambodia might be a bit safer because it does seem like they have a much better family support system in place to help shelter/feed each other etc.

John Bingham wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:09 pm Sounds kind of familiar. Didn't Donald Trump say the exact same thing a few days ago?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... oronavirus

theKid wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:22 pm

SiemReapRoddy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:42 pm I guess this applies to every country in the world as opposed to just Cambodia, but it will happen here too (probably worse when you look at the numbers)

A couple of quick examples before we start:

1 - A young girl in the UK commited suicide because she couldn't handle the thought of being in lockdown alone.
2 - A nurse commited suicide because she was ashamed she might have passed COVID-19 onto her patients.

If the world keeps these lockdowns in place long term at the expense of the ecomony, do you think we'll see the number of suicides reach the number or COVID-19 deaths due to people not being able to pay their bills, feed their kids, save their marriage, ect?

At what point do we need to realize saving the ecomony isn't just about not losing money, but saving the lives of people who will commit suicide + stopping millions of people from becoming completely destitute?

Cambodia might be a bit safer because it does seem like they have a much better family support system in place to help shelter/feed each other etc.

Shit will hit the fan soon in the KoW. There is lots of anecdotal evidence that it has already started. I don’t subscribe to the notion that its safer because of the better family support system. Under the surface there is no empathy. The thousands who lost their jobs and income in the past weeks and returned home to their provinces are already overstaying their welcome and are running out of the megre savings. Many of them are hugly indebted and their failure to repay loans will set off chain reactions.
Letting tourists in, however, is unlikely to happen and even if that thing goes away, there won’t be any significant upswing anytime soon.
For many currently still employed in the manufacturing industry the trouble is just starting. Almost all Western brands have nixed their orders.

YuWong wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:23 pm I think western democracies will insure their populations do not become destitute. Hence the multi trillion dollar bill just passed in America. Thailand and Korea have exceptionally high suicide rates and yet very different standards of living. I am sure mental health problems will raise both in caregivers and in the self qurentined. What are you suggesting, stop lock downs and let the virus take it's course. Will the economy improve if hospitals are overflowing and shopping becomes a risk of death? I Don t think we have much choice but lock down however if the followers of the POTUS who espouse sacrificing lives for the 1% get their way we will see if "your" train of thought is correct. More teen aged girls have committed suicide over teenage boys than have over lock down. More nurses have commuted suicide over debt problems than Covid19.

theKid wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:22 pm

SiemReapRoddy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:42 pm I guess this applies to every country in the world as opposed to just Cambodia, but it will happen here too (probably worse when you look at the numbers)

A couple of quick examples before we start:

1 - A young girl in the UK commited suicide because she couldn't handle the thought of being in lockdown alone.
2 - A nurse commited suicide because she was ashamed she might have passed COVID-19 onto her patients.

If the world keeps these lockdowns in place long term at the expense of the ecomony, do you think we'll see the number of suicides reach the number or COVID-19 deaths due to people not being able to pay their bills, feed their kids, save their marriage, ect?

At what point do we need to realize saving the ecomony isn't just about not losing money, but saving the lives of people who will commit suicide + stopping millions of people from becoming completely destitute?

Cambodia might be a bit safer because it does seem like they have a much better family support system in place to help shelter/feed each other etc.

Shit will hit the fan soon in the KoW. There is lots of anecdotal evidence that it has already started. I don’t subscribe to the notion that its safer because of the better family support system. Under the surface there is no empathy. The thousands who lost their jobs and income in the past weeks and returned home to their provinces are already overstaying their welcome and are running out of the megre savings. Many of them are hugly indebted and their failure to repay loans will set off chain reactions.
Letting tourists in, however, is unlikely to happen and even if that thing goes away, there won’t be any significant upswing anytime soon.
For many currently still employed in the manufacturing industry the trouble is just starting. Almost all Western brands have nixed their orders.

YuWong wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:19 pm

theKid wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:22 pm

SiemReapRoddy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:42 pm I guess this applies to every country in the world as opposed to just Cambodia, but it will happen here too (probably worse when you look at the numbers)

A couple of quick examples before we start:

1 - A young girl in the UK commited suicide because she couldn't handle the thought of being in lockdown alone.
2 - A nurse commited suicide because she was ashamed she might have passed COVID-19 onto her patients.

If the world keeps these lockdowns in place long term at the expense of the ecomony, do you think we'll see the number of suicides reach the number or COVID-19 deaths due to people not being able to pay their bills, feed their kids, save their marriage, ect?

At what point do we need to realize saving the ecomony isn't just about not losing money, but saving the lives of people who will commit suicide + stopping millions of people from becoming completely destitute?

Cambodia might be a bit safer because it does seem like they have a much better family support system in place to help shelter/feed each other etc.

Shit will hit the fan soon in the KoW. There is lots of anecdotal evidence that it has already started. I don’t subscribe to the notion that its safer because of the better family support system. Under the surface there is no empathy. The thousands who lost their jobs and income in the past weeks and returned home to their provinces are already overstaying their welcome and are running out of the megre savings. Many of them are hugly indebted and their failure to repay loans will set off chain reactions.
Letting tourists in, however, is unlikely to happen and even if that thing goes away, there won’t be any significant upswing anytime soon.
For many currently still employed in the manufacturing industry the trouble is just starting. Almost all Western brands have nixed their orders.

Let me guess, it is "your" thought that we should all be back to work by Easter Sunday as well.