Interested to see what the concensus is amongst the expat community.

My, good for nothing, opinion believes that we should be staying home, going out to get essentials and going to work if necessary as well as wearing a mask in public (even though it makes a minimal debatable difference)

I still see westerners going to gyms, going to gigs, getting drunk in groups and just rocking on as normal.

I believe staying at home is necessary not because of fears of getting the virus, not necessarily because I personally think it's the correct thing to do (although I probably do) but because ultimately we are foreigners here. We will always be foreigners here, no matter how long you've spent here, and we have a collective responsibility to not endanger a country which has a lot of vulnerable people and an inept health system.

There are many various opinions on the presence of the virus in Cambodia etc etc, but that isn't the point. Its the message as foreigners we put out to the Cambodian society.

Our Western concept of individualism and making our own decisions doesn't really apply right now.

One thing is people earning a living I get that, but socialising, you wouldn't be doing it in your home country right now, so why do it here?

My thoughts are inconclusive on this one so I would love to hear opposing opinions on the matter.

Ps. Maybe I've been in my house for too long and I'm going slightly insane.

sousadeyy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:32 amOne thing is people earning a living I get that, but socializing, you wouldn't be doing it in your home country right now, so why do it here?

I would totally be hanging out with some friends if I were back home. I'm not saying I'd be attending house parties, but hanging out with friends for sure.

But in any case, I've been staying home here. I don't think there's anything wrong with hanging out with friends here either, though. I think it's pretty dumb, selfish, and irresponsible to hang out in a bar with large groups, but going over to a friend's house or meeting up with a friend is completely reasonable to me as long as you're both feeling healthy, aren't being idiots in your daily lives, and are respecting the fact that we should all be careful right now.

I agree with you there. Maybe I wasn't clear, I meant publicly socialising. Going to someone's house, sure. Out in a bar, I'm leaning towards no.

Just an opinion though, I mean it sounds like a rant but I do respect that everyone has their own approach on this.

Electric Earth wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:53 am but going over to a friend's house or meeting up with a friend is completely reasonable to me as long as you're both feeling healthy, aren't being idiots in your daily lives, and are respecting the fact that we should all be careful right now.

The virus can be transmitted by symptomless people and by people not acting like idiots. Meeting with friends is not "being careful right now"

Electric Earth wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:53 am

sousadeyy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:32 amOne thing is people earning a living I get that, but socializing, you wouldn't be doing it in your home country right now, so why do it here?

I would totally be hanging out with some friends if I were back home. I'm not saying I'd be attending house parties, but hanging out with friends for sure.

But in any case, I've been staying home here. I don't think there's anything wrong with hanging out with friends here either, though. I think it's pretty dumb, selfish, and irresponsible to hang out in a bar with large groups, but going over to a friend's house or meeting up with a friend is completely reasonable to me as long as you're both feeling healthy, aren't being idiots in your daily lives, and are respecting the fact that we should all be careful right now.

Congratulations. After its over you can work out how many innocent people you killed by spreading the virus to people who are elderly or have health conditions.
Going to a mates? how? public transport to fro maximum spread or ypu just going to leave the virus in petrol mstations for the stealth affect?
The risk is not necessarilt directly to you, but to the people who come in contact with you and your mates. ypou give it to friend a, who then goes to meet friend b and gives it to him, and then he takes it home and gives it to his grand ma. Congratulations, another one dead. GROW UP

pczz wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:24 am Congratulations. After its over you can work out how many innocent people you killed by spreading the virus to people who are elderly or have health conditions.
Going to a mates? how? public transport to fro maximum spread or ypu just going to leave the virus in petrol mstations for the stealth affect?
The risk is not necessarilt directly to you, but to the people who come in contact with you and your mates. ypou give it to friend a, who then goes to meet friend b and gives it to him, and then he takes it home and gives it to his grand ma. Congratulations, another one dead. GROW UP

Hmm... I'm 100% certain I said I'VE BEEN STAYING HOME. Calm yourself. Or go live the rest of your life in terror. I don't really care. I'm quite sure you're much more likely to get the virus going to the market or to get some gas than hanging out with a healthy friend, who is also being careful, at your home. Brains are cool. Let's use them. And if you can't figure out that by being responsible, I'm including things like not hanging out with old people, that's your problem, not mine.
Also, try to edit out the multi-quotes so as not to clog up the thread.

Please guys:
Social distancing is one of the few tools we have to make a difference. We really don’t know “who is incubating.”
Stay home as much as possible and keep a safe distance when outside.

pczz wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:24 am

Electric Earth wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:53 am

sousadeyy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:32 amOne thing is people earning a living I get that, but socializing, you wouldn't be doing it in your home country right now, so why do it here?

I would totally be hanging out with some friends if I were back home. I'm not saying I'd be attending house parties, but hanging out with friends for sure.

But in any case, I've been staying home here. I don't think there's anything wrong with hanging out with friends here either, though. I think it's pretty dumb, selfish, and irresponsible to hang out in a bar with large groups, but going over to a friend's house or meeting up with a friend is completely reasonable to me as long as you're both feeling healthy, aren't being idiots in your daily lives, and are respecting the fact that we should all be careful right now.

Congratulations. After its over you can work out how many innocent people you killed by spreading the virus to people who are elderly or have health conditions.
Going to a mates? how? public transport to fro maximum spread or ypu just going to leave the virus in petrol mstations for the stealth affect?
The risk is not necessarilt directly to you, but to the people who come in contact with you and your mates. ypou give it to friend a, who then goes to meet friend b and gives it to him, and then he takes it home and gives it to his grand ma. Congratulations, another one dead. GROW UP

I think its a bit more complex than that though. I don't think Cambodia could completely shut down and isolate. The lack of social security makes it near impossible for a large amount of the population. In that sense containing the virus, well... I don't know how that ends. So if your friend comes round your house I'm not convinced that you are compounding the problem.

That being said, you definitely aren't helping the issue. Public to me is the major factor because its the message that is sent out to society and how it reflects. The sentiment that this is being bought over by foreigners is real.

Electric Earth wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:33 am

pczz wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:24 am

Electric Earth wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:53 am

sousadeyy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:32 amOne thing is people earning a living I get that, but socializing, you wouldn't be doing it in your home country right now, so why do it here?

I would totally be hanging out with some friends if I were back home. I'm not saying I'd be attending house parties, but hanging out with friends for sure.

But in any case, I've been staying home here. I don't think there's anything wrong with hanging out with friends here either, though. I think it's pretty dumb, selfish, and irresponsible to hang out in a bar with large groups, but going over to a friend's house or meeting up with a friend is completely reasonable to me as long as you're both feeling healthy, aren't being idiots in your daily lives, and are respecting the fact that we should all be careful right now.

Congratulations. After its over you can work out how many innocent people you killed by spreading the virus to people who are elderly or have health conditions.
Going to a mates? how? public transport to fro maximum spread or ypu just going to leave the virus in petrol mstations for the stealth affect?
The risk is not necessarilt directly to you, but to the people who come in contact with you and your mates. ypou give it to friend a, who then goes to meet friend b and gives it to him, and then he takes it home and gives it to his grand ma. Congratulations, another one dead. GROW UP

Hmm... Let's see if we can figure this out. I'm 100% certain I said I'VE BEEN STAYING HOME. Calm yourself. Or go live the rest of your life in terror. I don't really care. I'm quite sure you're much more likely to get the virus going to the market or to get some gas than hanging out with a healthy friend, who is also being careful, at your home. Brains are cool. Let's use them. And if you can't figure out that by being responsible, I'm including not hanging out with old people, that's your problem, not mine.

And why are you more likely to get the virus going to the market? is that where virus cariiers go? your mates immune? your mates do not go to the market?
I do not live in terror. i have lung disease, i will die quickly and no one will miss me. But other peopoe want to live. Everyone should stay at home and not go out other than to get essential supplies. UK best case projection if we do that only 20,000 dead, if we don't up to 500,000 dead. people who go out unneccessarily are playign russian roulette with other peoples lives as well as their own

pczz wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:37 am And why are you more likely to get the virus going to the market? is that where virus cariiers go? your mates immune? your mates do not go to the market?
I do not live in terror. i have lung disease, i will die quickly and no one will miss me. But other peopoe want to live. Everyone should stay at home and not go out other than to get essential supplies. UK best case projection if we do that only 20,000 dead, if we don't up to 500,000 dead. people who go out unneccessarily are playign russian roulette with other peoples lives as well as their own

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that a public place where everyone's hands and coughs are all over everything is a Much more likely place to catch it than the home of a healthy person...