possible benefits of pandemic

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Re: possible benefits of pandemic

Post by PSD-Kiwi » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:03 pm

Heaps of bargains to be had lately from FB buy-n-sell groups by expats panicking, selling up to return home, and out of work TEFL'ers.
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Re: possible benefits of pandemic

Post by Jerry Atrick » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:29 pm

Kammekor wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:54 pm
Jerry Atrick wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:49 pm
Still not even 10% of deaths caused by swine flu in 2009, and no lock down then...

This shit is ridiculous.

*I will add that I'm in week two of staying at home and away from sick people and a bit cranky.
Did you stay at home and away from sick people in 2009?

If not, maybe start calling yourself ridiculous?

In 2009, I was between London and S.E.A. I heard about swine flu, but there was hardly any worry in the air. I think perhaps the biggest concession to its existence was a thermal scanner at pochentong.

There was no lock down, isolation or distancing then.

I'm doing it now, less because I believe in it, but because of the perceptions of those I know.

Point is, what is the key difference between now and what was (at this stage) a far more dangerous influenza?

Do you know?
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Re: possible benefits of pandemic

Post by teflsea » Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:49 pm

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Point is, what is the key difference between now and what was (at this stage) a far more dangerous influenza?

Do you know?
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My understanding is that this novel coronavirus has already killed more people in the UK than swine flu did in 2009. NHS figures online say that 138 people died from Swine flu in England. We are only just getting started with covid-19 here and we’re already above 200 in England.

Swine flu was considered to have a high mortality rate when it was first detected, but that was likely due to the number of mild cases that went unnoticed. In the end the NHS predicts a mortality rate of 0.026% which is very low. If we look at Germany and South Korea where mass testing for covid-19 has taken place, we probably see more reliable estimates (although still high) of 0.4-0.6%.

What they are finding is that patients that end up in a critical state in hospital are suffering from severe pneumonia and need intensive care. The biggest difficulty most nations seem to be facing is that they just can’t cope with the number of patients who will need ventilators and other life saving equipment, meaning the mortality rate ends up much higher due to inadequate care.

I wouldn’t say covid-19 is going to cause an apocalypse, but initial evidence shows it’s certainly something to take seriously.
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Re: possible benefits of pandemic

Post by Kammekor » Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:50 pm

Jerry Atrick wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:29 pm
Kammekor wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:54 pm
Jerry Atrick wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:49 pm
Still not even 10% of deaths caused by swine flu in 2009, and no lock down then...

This shit is ridiculous.

*I will add that I'm in week two of staying at home and away from sick people and a bit cranky.
Did you stay at home and away from sick people in 2009?

If not, maybe start calling yourself ridiculous?

In 2009, I was between London and S.E.A. I heard about swine flu, but there was hardly any worry in the air. I think perhaps the biggest concession to its existence was a thermal scanner at pochentong.

There was no lock down, isolation or distancing then.

I'm doing it now, less because I believe in it, but because of the perceptions of those I know.

Point is, what is the key difference between now and what was (at this stage) a far more dangerous influenza?

Do you know?
No, I don’t know, but it seems a bit silly to me to call the measures ‘ridiculous’ while at the same time self imposing those measures.

If the measures are ridiculous, live by it and just do as you always did I would say.

For me, the full scale of this pandemic for Cambodia is still not clear
. For the USA, Europe and other areas with moderate climates this virus seems a perfect storm, going undetected and being underestimated by most countries.
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Re: possible benefits of pandemic

Post by Phnom Poon » Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:57 pm

SternAAlbifrons wrote:
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This is how a city should be.
phnom penh is also improved

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Re: possible benefits of pandemic

Post by Jerry Atrick » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:18 pm

Kammekor wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:50 pm
Jerry Atrick wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:29 pm
Kammekor wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:54 pm
Jerry Atrick wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:49 pm
Still not even 10% of deaths caused by swine flu in 2009, and no lock down then...

This shit is ridiculous.

*I will add that I'm in week two of staying at home and away from sick people and a bit cranky.
Did you stay at home and away from sick people in 2009?

If not, maybe start calling yourself ridiculous?

In 2009, I was between London and S.E.A. I heard about swine flu, but there was hardly any worry in the air. I think perhaps the biggest concession to its existence was a thermal scanner at pochentong.

There was no lock down, isolation or distancing then.

I'm doing it now, less because I believe in it, but because of the perceptions of those I know.

Point is, what is the key difference between now and what was (at this stage) a far more dangerous influenza?

Do you know?
No, I don’t know, but it seems a bit silly to me to call the measures ‘ridiculous’ while at the same time self imposing those measures.

If the measures are ridiculous, live by it and just do as you always did I would say.

For me, the full scale of this pandemic for Cambodia is still not clear
. For the USA, Europe and other areas with moderate climates this virus seems a perfect storm, going undetected and being underestimated by most countries.

Well, my landlord and her family live next to us, their grandkid goes to school with my kids. They have 4 people between 70 and 80 in their house. So they got a little worried because I usually go outside after 10pm most nights.

As a courtesy, I'm staying in and away from everyone for 2 weeks. 6 days left after this, hopefully.
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Re: possible benefits of pandemic

Post by John Bingham » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:34 pm

Benefits? You might be able to tell your grandchildren how you survived the pandemic and global meltdown of 2020. Unfortunately your grandchildren will probably look like this:

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Re: possible benefits of pandemic

Post by Phnom Poon » Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:59 pm

Fed announces unlimited bond purchases in unprecedented move

in the extreme, the global financial-capitalism system could collapse
that sounds bad, and it surely would be for a few years

but then we could rebuild the economy on more rational and equitable principles
no, definitely not old-school socialism, or darwinism, or neo-feudalism again
something new
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Re: possible benefits of pandemic

Post by Soriya » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:08 pm

Duncan wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:13 pm
Well this is dickwad Duncans view and it hasn't changed for years.
Nailed it in your first sentence
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Re: possible benefits of pandemic

Post by Freightdog » Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:14 pm

John Bingham wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:34 pm
Benefits? You might be able to tell your grandchildren how you survived the pandemic and global meltdown of 2020. Unfortunately your grandchildren will probably look like this:

These days, I think one problem is that too many kids are already like this. (I’ve heard some interesting tales of local gangs of kids deliberately getting in peoples faces, and doing EXACTLY the opposite of taking care, respecting other people, being cautious- in the UK)
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