long range effects of covid19

Phnom Poon · Post by **Phnom Poon** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:39 pm

yes!
a new corona thread, why not!

this one is for armchair philosophers
ignore the panic and noise
how will this pandemic change society?

Captain Bonez · Post by **Captain Bonez** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:41 pm

#coronavirusforumneeded

Phnom Poon · Post by **Phnom Poon** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:46 pm

Captain Bonez wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:41 pm #coronavirusforumneeded

and has been for a while

this topic is not entirely tongue=in-cheek however

i think corona/covid19/pandemic could be a good opportunity for improvement
or, as we see with current governments, it could go the other way

Post by **Username Taken** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:19 pm

Phnom Poon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:39 pm how will this pandemic change society?

We will all have the cleanest hands in the history of the world.

cptrelentless · Post by **cptrelentless** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:20 pm

Username Taken wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:19 pm
Phnom Poon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:39 pm how will this pandemic change society?
We will all have the cleanest hands in the history of the world.

And spotless arses.

xandreu · Post by **xandreu** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:51 pm

Interesting take on how this isn't the first and won't be the last pandemic.

siliconlife · Post by **siliconlife** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:08 pm

Phnom Poon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:46 pm
i think corona/covid19/pandemic could be a good opportunity for improvement
or, as we see with current governments, it could go the other way

That's an interesting point, I think. In a way we're a bit powerless, apart from you know having the power to wash our hands, buy too many masks, and fight over toilet paper. Most countries have been let down by their institutions, and for some reason I can't see this waking people up politically, as it even seems to often drive individuals and ethnicities against one another.

Post by **Clutch Cargo** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:42 pm

The chinese stop eating wild animals?

Can the authorities enforce it on their subjects?

SternAAlbifrons · Post by **SternAAlbifrons** » Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:14 pm

clutchcargo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:42 pm The chinese stop eating wild animals?

Can the authorities enforce it on their subjects?

Yep - to a degree

One interesting viewpoint i heard was a Chinese Aust virologist now based in NUSingapore, who has been one of the acknowledged world leaders in Coronavirus epidemiology since the early 1990's. He was part of the team that pinged SARS to bats.
He went to Wuhan end of Jan to study how this one developed.

He was one of those who has been predicting exactly this kind of coronavirus outbreak since before SARS and he is a close observer of Chinese response to the fact (FACT) that coronavirus almost certainly all stem from mammals other than man (mostly from bats in Asia but also other species elsewhere)

He reckons it will be, even now, very difficult for even absolute dictator Xi Ji Pingpong to totally stop the practice by a total ban.
He thinks they are more likely to go for strict controls. and selective to some species only.
It is so deeply ingrained in Chinese culture.

I suspect he is right, unfortunately - nevertheless it is going to go right out of fashion for a while, at least, even without a word from Ji Ji la Sun King

AzalKH · Post by **AzalKH** » Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:30 am

SternAAlbifrons wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 9:14 pm
clutchcargo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:42 pm The chinese stop eating wild animals?

Can the authorities enforce it on their subjects?
Yep - to a degree

One interesting viewpoint i heard was a Chinese Aust virologist now based in NUSingapore, who has been one of the acknowledged world leaders in Coronavirus epidemiology since the early 1990's. He was part of the team that pinged SARS to bats.
He went to Wuhan end of Jan to study how this one developed.

He was one of those who has been predicting exactly this kind of coronavirus outbreak since before SARS and he is a close observer of Chinese response to the fact (FACT) that coronavirus almost certainly all stem from mammals other than man (mostly from bats in Asia but also other species elsewhere)

He reckons it will be, even now, very difficult for even absolute dictator Xi Ji Pingpong to totally stop the practice by a total ban.
He thinks they are more likely to go for strict controls. and selective to some species only.
It is so deeply ingrained in Chinese culture.

I suspect he is right, unfortunately - nevertheless it is going to go right out of fashion for a while, at least, even without a word from Ji Ji la Sun King

Many of them aren't even wild any more, they're farmed instead. However, with a larger number of species in close proximity to each other and humans, it is easier for viruses in wild animals to cross over. I'd guess that this will eventually be traced back to a farm of some sort of normally wild animal

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