General Mackevili wrote:Fuck it. I think all positions in all NGO's/charities should be volunteer positions. Then we could be sure we don't have anyone in the sector that's doing it only/partially for the money.

General Mackevili wrote:It is high. I think he and others deserve it.

Have you already answered the amount that you think Neeson should be paid? That would be an interesting amount. What is it?

And I think that offering a high salary isn't a big deal as far as attracting the people only in it for the money. Surely they have to go through a interview process, etc. That should be more of a factor than just thinking people are doing it only for the money.

What about the qualified people who want to help, but ALSO want to earn good money. I think that's fair. With a low salary you exclude them from even wanting to apply.

So I say offer a high salary. Yes, unsavory money hoarding anti-vladamirists will apply, but that's the price you pay for attempting to attract the best to apply, and you DON'T have to hire them.

I personally think that low, vlad-approved salaries would do more harm than good for the over all goals of these NGO's. I think you'd have a lot of qualified people that would like to run these NGO's, but just won't do it for silly wages. They'll instead work for regular businesses that are willing to pay them what they deserve. And then, because of the low salaries being offered, the NGO's will have to settle for less qualified people to fill this important roles.

So Vlad, how much should Neeson make?

General Mackevili wrote:I hate to say it, but unemployed people in Cambodia applying for executive positions in any organizations probably aren't the cream of the crop.

How would you know? Seriously? You worked for a mid-range school, one that doesn’t even feature on the list of truly ‘international schools’ here. You had almost no experience in any NGO, did you? Have you ever recruited staff as an administrator for any organisation here?

Who mentioned unemployed people? You’re an idiot if you don’t know that already gainfully-employed people also apply for positions.

And before you/anyone starts to put words in my mouth, I'm not saying that there aren't some assholes running these NGO's, I'm just saying I have no problem at all with them making what seems like a ridiculously high salary to some English teachers in Cambodia.

Who was comparing it to what an English teacher earns? You deliberately ignored the most important factor, that is these people are doing CHARITY work. Do you support evangelical pastors earning millions? The obscene wealth of the Roman Catholic Church?

Also, I consider these people to be what I truly call an "expat."

Yeah, well, maybe you should inform the Oxford English dictionary and Merriam Webster that they don’t know what they’re talking about, I’m sure they’ll adjust their entries. The rest of us non-enlightened ones will have to use their standard definitions.

Yes, Cambodia is cheap, but their salary for these executive positions need to reflect their lives back home where costs are much more.

Why? They are living here. Seriously,what a stupid, dumb statement.

This is not a "year off to help underprivileged kids" before they go and finish their masters, this IS what they trained/studied for.

So the guy in the NGO studied NGO admin, and most NGO admins studied NGO admin? Really? Wow, maybe you should check your facts.

Anyways, I will never expect you to be OK with people making a lot of MONEY, Vlad.

That’s just fucking childish, you being you again. I have consistently qualified my statement to show that money earned ethically/morally is no problem, and you know that, but perhaps you’re just being a jock. That’s never happened before, it seems to be …just you.

General Mackevili wrote:Studied "NGO Admin"? Now you're just putting words in my mouth. Stop being silly.

No, I'm not. You implied that these guys studied for these jobs, and many of them didn't. At least one was an ex=policeman, and many others have no relevant experience.

Would it be fair to say you only did such a low-paying NGO job because you wrongly assumed you'd get bumped up to a well-paid position, and were very upset and quit when that didn't happen?
Anyways, if you think the best and most qualified applicants are in Cambodia versus back in the West, I have nothing more to add, LoL.

Obviously everybody wants to improve their position in every job, right? How about you? No? And no, it's not teh only reason I took the job, but I fail to see this line of questioning's relevance to the argument.I'm willing to sit down with you and the Director of said NGO and prove to you that they fucked up when they hired me, because they wouldn't need the curricula I was hired to design because of ASEAN. So yes, I was kind of angry that people signed a 2 year contract when they should have known that it was not necessary to hire anyone.

You have already been proven on the other site to sell books that were given to you (and you know damn well you would have crucified your enemies if they had done the same thing), ask a "lawyer" for a job then act like you had no idea you'd be essentially be working for a, surprise, law firm, and the list goes on.

1. wtf have books got to do with this? Seriously, your logic is...

2. Are you blind? scobienz is not a lawyer, SP will vouch for that. I know that. He works in a legal office, but he's not a lawyer. Pay attention at the back, there. This argument has absolutely zit to do with the thread. Again, try and stay on topic, OK?

Get off you high humanity horse and admit you're only in the lowly paid positions you're always in because it's the only jobs you're remotely even qualified for.

Yeah, you're spelling/grammar mistakes on here prove how qualified you are, right? Ha! Low paid? Hah, compared to yours, only the NGO was low paid. Let's ask how many international organisations you have worked for here...And how is this even relevant to the argument? It's NOT. I've worked for two international companies in Cambodia, how many have you worked for ? Zip. Why? Because you're sooo qualified, right? LOL.

All I'm saying is that these salaries that seem enormous to you ain't that much in the real world, and even if you work for a charity I have no problem with you making good money that makes some of us English teachers in Cambodia cry bloody murder.

Is that all you're saying? Really. Because here, as in so many of your posts and in real life, you've once again shown what you really are like.
So many irrelevant, rambling bitchy comments, you being you.

Now can you answer the relevant questions I raised in my previous post, without going into snide/bitchy mode?