Following the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Outbreak - News and Discussion

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Ravi Gupta, a professor of clinical microbiology at Cambridge University, said work in his lab found that two of the mutations on B.1.1.529 increased infectivity and reduced antibody recognition. “It does certainly look a significant concern based on the mutations present,” he said. “However, a key property of the virus that is unknown is its infectiousness, as that is what appears to have primarily driven the Delta variant. Immune escape is only part of the picture of what may happen.”

Quote from nemo's post - In a string of tweets, Peacock doubled down on his warning, insisting the variant "very, very much should be monitored due to that horrific spike profile", and said he expected it "would be worse antigenically than nearly anything else about" – including the lethal Delta variant which has wreaked havoc across the world.

I would think it is not out of the ordinary to say that respiratory viruses work especially easily on a person who has that of a low immune system, such has the alleged B.1.1529 variant by the means of an untreated HIV/Aids patient. You could also think that the scientists are down playing this new found variant, or in fact they are not in the game of "scare mongering", just providing facts from their ongoing work.

To myself there are two key elements named above, new variant's, meaning the virus is still able to mutate to its advantage. A step ahead of the science and prevention we may have today. And that of a person person who has a low immune system, that could be because the person has another illness, or even simply on the day is a little rundown.
It might, may be fact that Cambodia have done a marvellous job by the means of their vaccination program at such a rapid ongoing effort that are keeping the number of infections down. Because I do think that any developing countries are probably prone to illnesses obviously more than a first world country with a substantial health system in place. What would be a concern to me at this time or the very near future, is to treat the numbers of people that have been left behind because of the pandemic. That is the sufferers of such respiratory illness, Tuberculosis infected people, due to being prone to being targeted by the Covid19 virus, also passing on both illnesses to others, "only my speculation" there also is the chance in this case again the Covid19 virus can once again migrate too another deadly variant.
Always "hope" but never "expect".
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nemo wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:28 pm But then this
In his initial notes, Peacock stated that the fact the strain had spread to Asia
Here we go again...

South Africa to be put on England’s travel red list over new Covid variant

Flights from six countries will be banned as officials review travel measures after scientists voice concern over variant

Flights from southern Africa will be banned, with six countries placed under England’s red list travel restrictions, after scientists raised the alarm over what is feared to be the worst Covid-19 variant yet identified.

Whitehall sources said the B.1.1.529 variant, which is feared to be more transmissible and has the potential to evade immunity, posed “a potentially significant threat to the vaccine programme which we have to protect at all costs”.

Hundreds of people who have recently returned from South Africa, where the variant was detected, and neighbouring countries are expected to be tracked down and offered tests in an effort to avoid the new variant entering the UK.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... ern-africa
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This variant seems to give quirky results (known as an S-gene dropout) in the standard tests and that can be used to track the variant without doing a full genetic analysis.

That suggests 90% of cases in Gauteng may already be this variant and it "may already be present in most provinces" in South Africa.
This is causing grave concern

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59418127
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Stock markets are being affected by the news
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This is why we should be copyright busting and pumping vaccines to everybody on the planet for free.
- for our sake, if can't raise the compassion for the poorer 80% of humans on earth.

Every unvaxed population is a new variant development lab and our super-duper rich man's vaxxes won't be worth tuppence before very long.

maybe, or am i getting carried away??
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Basically if a news outlet tends to the left they favour extended lockdowns, dire warnings and tighter authoritarian control in the name of fighting covid

If a news outlet tends to the right they want and end to all restrictions and a return to normal, consequences be dammed

at least in editorial tone

I suspect that many individual "scientists" similarly are led by their various biases rather than by the actual science itself

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This news is on every outlet of whatever bias. UK has banned flights from Southern Africa.
"The Science" will not know much more than what has been published for 2-3 weeks in any provable way.
I look for Europe to adopt the flight bans.
If vax is unreliable with the new strain, lockdowns are the only tool left.
We would be back to square one if this strain is "worse".
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nemo wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:08 pm This news is on every outlet of whatever bias. UK has banned flights from Southern Africa.
"The Science" will not know much more than what has been published for 2-3 weeks in any provable way.
As I said last year; when newspapers are running scaremongering headlines over a virus mutating then those headlines won't stop forever. Viruses constantly mutate

This is fearmongering and a knee jerk reaction on the part of whoever banned flights today
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Jerry Atrick wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:28 pm
nemo wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:08 pm This news is on every outlet of whatever bias. UK has banned flights from Southern Africa.
"The Science" will not know much more than what has been published for 2-3 weeks in any provable way.
As I said last year; when newspapers are running scaremongering headlines over a virus mutating then those headlines won't stop forever. Viruses constantly mutate

This is fearmongering and a knee jerk reaction on the part of whoever banned flights today
Or taking precautions given the analysis already done on the mutation. Wait and see is a viable approach.
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Germany plans to declare South Africa a "virus variant area" from Friday night, which will mean that airlines may only enter from the country to repatriate German citizens.
Fellow EU nations Austria, France, Italy, the Netherlands and Malta have all announced imminent entry bans to all travelers who've entered South Africa, Lesotho, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Namibia and Eswatini in the past two weeks.
French Health Minister Olivier Véran said the "rapid" circulation of the variant in South Africa "means that it's probably contagious or very contagious," justifying France's precautionary stance.
Singapore has opted to ban all non-residents from Botswana, Eswatini, Lesotho, Mozambique, Namibia, South Africa and Zimbabwe from entering, while nationals and permanent residents returning from any of these countries will be required to serve a 10-day stay home notice (SHN). Malaysia has also taken similar steps.
The developments have led to speculation that some of the strict curbs on travel brought in at the start of the pandemic could be on their way back.

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/new- ... index.html
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