Uncle-V wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:37 pm If 90+% of pop is vaccinated and vax protects 90+ % against getting very sick (though significantly less in getting infected) then the government should be opening considering the dire economic circumstances.

Either vax numbers are way off, or they are worried about having enough resources to revaccinate/ give a booster in 6 months as the protection from the first round of vaccinations wears off.

Or (maybe most likely) they just don't really know what they should be doing (making them not that much different from most governments).

After scaring their people for months about these extremely deathly virus variants they can't just change the paradigm and open up, it would make them look like a total fool.

Ad to that... If things turn really bad, and angry / scared people take the streets the elite might be in for some hard times. IMHO that's what they want to avoid more than anything.

Doc67 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:40 pm

The "deadly / vicous / lethal" hyperbole has stopped a while ago. The death toll (fairly hard to fiddle) is tiny compared with actual infections, not the silly numbers they all parrot in the media.

They're still full blown scared about 'Delta' IMHO.

Vietnamese fleeing virus found in refrigerated truck
published : 13 Sep 2021 at 16:24
writer: AFP

Fifteen people including a seven-year-old boy have been found inside a refrigerated truck in Vietnam after they tried to escape areas of the south badly hit by Covid-19, state media said Monday.

Vietnam has been battling a devastating fourth wave of the virus since April and tens of millions of people are under stay-at-home orders, with domestic travel largely forbidden.

On Sunday police in Binh Thuan province discovered the group of 15 inside a vehicle that had aroused suspicion as it tried to pass a virus checkpoint on its way north, Ho Chi Minh City's Phap Luat online newspaper said.

"Police were so surprised to see 15 people at the back of the truck... Some of them were sweating and showed symptoms of breath shortness," the report said, adding the passengers were carrying negative Covid test certificates.

A passenger said they had asked the driver to turn off the truck's refrigeration system as it had been too cold.

"We knew it is a huge risk and very dangerous to stay in a closed frozen truck, but we faced a higher risk if we were infected with the virus," the report quoted a man travelling with his seven-year-old son as saying.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/21811 ... ruck-media

Canada: Alberta healthcare system on verge of collapse as Covid cases and anti-vax sentiments rise
A province that has long boasted of its loose coronavirus restrictions has also been the site of North America’s highest caseloads
Leyland Cecco in Toronto
Last modified on Wed 15 Sep 2021 17.01 BST

A surge in coronavirus cases has pushed the healthcare system in the Canadian province of Alberta to the verge of collapse, as healthcare workers struggle against mounting exhaustion and a growing anti-vaccine movement in the region.

The province warned this week that its ICU capacity was strained, with more people requiring intensive care than any other point during the pandemic – nearly all of them unvaccinated.

“It’s not easy to go to work every day and watch people in their 30s die,” an ICU nurse in Edmonton told the Guardian. “Having to help a family say goodbye and then going through the actions that are required at the end of someone’s life, is worse than anyone can imagine.”

Alberta has long boasted of its loose coronavirus restrictions – including advertising the previous months as the “best summer ever” as it rolled back those few restrictions. It has also been the site of North America’s highest caseloads.

In a province with a long history of skepticism towards government, the pandemic has become fertile ground for protests and anti-vaccine rhetoric, including from elected officials, firefighters and police officers. During the ongoing federal election, the People’s Party of Canada, a fringe rightwing party that has come out against public health measures has seen its largest support base in rural Alberta.

That skepticism towards masks and vaccines has come at a steep cost, say frontline workers.

On Monday, more than 60 infectious-disease doctors wrote a letter to the premier, Jason Kenney, warning of a catastrophic outcome if the province did not address the escalating caseload.

“Our healthcare system is truly on the precipice of collapse,” the physicians wrote. “Hospitals and ICUs across the province are under enormous strain and have reached a point where it is unclear if, or for how much longer, we can provide safe care for Albertans.”

The province has cancelled elective surgeries as resources and space are allocated to Covid patients. ICU beds, meanwhile, are at capacity.

“As soon as those breathing tubes come out, we’re kicking people out of ICU to make space for someone else,” said another nurse. “It’s getting bleak. It’s hard to watch.”

Medical staff in Edmonton, the provincial capital, warned they would soon have to triage incoming patients to determine who could receive lifesaving care.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... cases-rise

Further to the report on the situation in Alberta, Canada: the city of Red Deer, located midway between Calgary and Edmonton, population just over 104K, is airlifting Covid patients to hospitals in Calgary and Edmonton due to the overwhelming numbers of patients requiring ventilators and ICU care in that city, https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/ ... -1.6176605