I posted about new variants to follow and was shot down with not having proof to back up my post. Thing is, do you believe in science and that of the development of a sure vaccine. Time now is that when someone is doing the development a new strain or variant appears on the scene, then the proposed vaccine will not be efficient for the purpose that it was intended for, so new work starts again once more, being like a catch up game, here the Covid19 virus is one or two steps ahead.

Vietnam may be moving from zero Covid to living with Covid.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci ... 021-09-03/

armchairlawyer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:42 pm Vietnam may be moving from zero Covid to living with Covid.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci ... 021-09-03/

I think we're going to start seeing a wave of countries now moving from zero covid to living with it. Lock-downs and restrictions were only ever really about flattening the curve rather than preventing people getting sick at all. Now that most people have been jabbed and it's becoming accepted everyone will get meet covid at some point, countries will start to pin their hopes on the vaccines working enough to flatten the curve by not overwhelming health services.

Let's hope we start to see a cautious return to some sort of normality.

clutchcargo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:14 pm

I think we're going to start seeing a wave of countries now moving from zero covid to living with it.

Australia is belatedly waking up to it while NZ is still hanging on to the delusion.

In Aus, the Premiers of NSW and Vic of the most populous states have now accepted this..yet, QLD and WA are still hanging on to zero covid. Of course this policy was never going to be sustainable. Delta has been the catalyst to bring forward the change of mind and for them to realise the costs (quantitative and qualitative) of ongoing lockdowns and restrictions over time will damage the country's well being and do more harm than good.

Australian PM seeks quicker reopening after COVID-19 vaccine swap with Britain

Australia secures 4 million doses of Pfizer from Britain
PM asks virus-free states to stick to reopening plans
NSW reports record daily cases and deaths
COVID free states reluctant to open borders
SYDNEY, Sept 3 (Reuters) - Australia will receive an additional 4 million doses of Pfizer's (PFE.N) COVID-19 vaccine this month after agreeing a swap deal with Britain, to help accelerate its vaccination programme amid a record surge in infections.

The deal, announced by Prime Minister Scott Morrison on Friday, will double the availability of Pfizer vaccines this month, with the first shipment of vaccines from Britain expected to arrive over the weekend.

Australia on Friday recorded its biggest one-day rise in COVID-19 infections, with 1,657 new cases and 13 deaths reported in the past 24 hours.

"On a difficult day like this, it’s important to bring hope. And, I can assure you, there is hope," Morrison told reporters in Canberra.

"This will enable us to bring forward significantly the opportunity for Australia to open up again."

Australia agreed a similar swap arrangement with Singapore earlier this week. Both deals will see Australia return Pfizer vaccines later in the year when the bulk of Canberra's order is delivered.

"Our agreement with Australia will share doses at the optimum time to bolster both our countries’ vaccination programmes," Sajid Javid, Britain's Health Secretary, said in an emailed statement.

LIVE WITH COVID

The surge in infections could make it more difficult for Morrison to persuade state and territories to remove lockdowns and restrictions on travel across state boundaries once 80% of their population over 16 years old are fully vaccinated.

Most of the new cases were again in Sydney, and New South Wales state Premier Gladys Berejiklian warned residents to brace for a spike in numbers as the next two weeks.

New South Wales and Victoria have warned people that they will now have to learn to live with COVID-19, though several other states have walked back on their commitment to the national plan.

These states, which are free of COVID-19, argue that the current third wave of infections makes it too risky to go along with the national plan to re-open borders.

The ongoing restrictions are threatening to drive Australia's A$2 trillion ($1.5 trillion) economy into its second recession in as many years, and the discord over how to move forward will be a challenge for Morrison, who must call an election before May 2022.

A total of nearly 58,200 cases and 1,032 deaths have been recorded in Australia since the pandemic began, far lower than many comparable countries, but the Delta outbreak has cast doubt on whether it is wise to pursue elimination strategies.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci ... 021-09-03/

armchairlawyer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:42 pm Vietnam may be moving from zero Covid to living with Covid.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci ... 021-09-03/

I would have thought by now it is the only option world wide, being all countries need to get back to some normality for their economy's and that of their peoples livelihoods. Maybe it's time to end the pandemic due to the Covid19 virus that is not just going to fizzle out like some predicted, it does seem like its here to stay and mutate, time for the people concerned in science development to produce a good vaccine or a cure.

An article in the "Khmer Times" purports that up to 95% of adult Cambodians have been vaccinated...

https://www.khmertimeskh.com/50929904/m ... -cambodia/

...But in the West, the news is full of protests against vaccine mandates -- everywhere! Shows you what good "half-an-education" does you. Anti-vaxxers of the Western world fail to notice that the concept of one's personal "freedom" might also happen to harm and kill others..... Not much capacity for critical or rational thinking left in the West -- only selfish opinions. All this egomaniacal chaos is going to go on and on.

"Anti Vaccinations Protesters Take to the Street for Eighth Consecutive Week"
https://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20210904-a ... utive-week

"Anti-Vaccine Protesters Try to Storm London Offices of Medical Regulator"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... -regulator

"Thousands Protest in Berlin Against COVID Curbs, Vaccines"
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ge ... 021-08-29/

"Thousands Protest Against Covid Curbs in Amsterdam"
https://www.trtworld.com/life/thousands ... ates-49718

"Protesters Covid Vaccine Mandates Infringe Freedoms"
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/proteste ... -1.6164308

"Vaccine Passport Protest"
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.6161817

"Protests Against Anti-COVID Measures Continue Across U.S. Despite Delta Case Surge"
https://www.reuters.com/news/picture/pr ... USRTXFRXGC

Viet Nam reports 12,420 daily COVID-19 cases, 335 new deaths on Thursday
10/09/21 01:07

Hanoi, 09 Sept (VNS)- Viet Nam reports 12,420new cases of COVID-19 confirmed on Thursday, health minstry said, bringing total to 576,096cases.

Việt Nam reports 12.420 new cases of COVID-19 on Thursday, including 21 imported and 12,399 local cases. The local cases are in Hồ Chí Minh (5.549), Bình Dương (4.531), Đồng Nai (880), Long An (412), Tây Ninh (161), Kiên Giang (135), Tiền Giang (115), Khánh Hòa (77), Đắk Lắk (61), Cần Thơ (53), Quảng Bình (50), Bình Thuận (44), Đồng Tháp (41), Đà Nẵng (35), Hà Nội (35), Bình Định (29), An Giang (28), Bình Phước (20), Đắk Nông (19), Bà Rịa - Vũng Tàu (16), Thanh Hóa (15), Phú Yên (15), Bến Tre (12), Bạc Liêu (12), Quảng Nam (10), Sóc Trăng (9), Nghệ An (8 ), Gia Lai (7), Quảng Ngãi (6), Hưng Yên (4), Cà Mau (4), Bắc Ninh (2), Trà Vinh (1), Quảng Trị (1), Ninh Thuận (1), Bắc Giang (1). Among these, 6,138 are found in the community.
http://en.freshnewsasia.com/index.php/e ... 23-06.html

Everyone in PC market Boeung Tumpoun- sellers and customers - have just been detained for testing