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timmydownawell wrote: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:26 am There are so many unknowns though. Have the people in Chile contracting Covid been vaccinated? All very well and good to say 42% fully vaccinated etc - but maybe the people getting sick aren't those people? For example here, we know most adults in PP have been vaccinated, yet nationally new cases are stubbornly sticking around 600-800/day. But they're not releasing figures specifically for PP. So how do we know if Sinovac is working or not? Conspiracy theorists may well suspect they are deliberately holding back the PP case numbers because the vaccine is not working. That would undermine any trust in it. I'd feel much better if there was a release from the govt saying that PP case numbers have dropped to two digit numbers or something.
There is also a lot of Covid fatigue in South America generally. I was reading about civil unrest in Colombia about endless lockdowns and poverty turning is extreme poverty - road blockages, riots and looting. Bogota is seriously affected and has never had Covid under control.

I suspect Chile is suffering from this plus the fact that their vaccine campaign is so much more advanced they all feel safe and behave accordingly. However, the ICU's in Santiago are back to near 100% capacity and the city is in lockdown again. Something in not going as planned. The fact that half the country's population is in the Santiago metropolitan area might have something to do with their problems.

It is a big worry for Cambodia especially with the Delta variant now in the country.

If the PP numbers were in the double digits they would be shouting that from the rooftops, no?

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More Delta Variant in Cambodia, and spread far and wide. Hold onto your hats...

On Friday, the Pasteur Institute discovered seven more cases of the Delta strain (two cases each in Oddar Meanchey and Siem Reap and one each in Banteay Meanchey and Kampot provinces.)


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And now we have the Delta PLUS variant. Again, more infectious. There are 41 known cases in the UK already. Probably brought in by direct flights to India that continue to arrive.

The Delta Plus variant – known as AY 1 – is related to the Delta variant, which was first identified in India last year, and which is thought to have been behind the country’s devastating second wave.

According to India’s health ministry, Delta Plus is more transmissible and binds itself to the lung cells more easily.

This would make it even more infectious than the Delta variant, which itself is up to 60% more transmissible than the Alpha – or Kent – variant, which was dominant in the UK during the second wave of Covid.


There are also fears Delta Plus could be resistant to monoclonal antibody therapy – a drug therapy for Covid which helps to neutralise viruses.

Indian officials have said the variant has been detected in around 40 samples from six states in three districts of the country – among them Maharashtra, one of the states worst affected by Covid.


As well as India, the Delta Plus variant has so far been found in nine other countries – including the UK, where 41 cases have been detected.

It has also been found in China, the US, Switzerland, Japan, Portugal, Poland, Nepal and Russia.


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Some good news about vaccine protection against the Delta variants. AZ, which is somewhat available in Cambodia, I believe, is particularly effective in preventing hospitalization. Unfortunately, the Reuters story is a bit obtuse (which happens nearly every day).

Headline: AstraZeneca, Pfizer vaccines effective against Delta COVID-19 variants-study
The study by Oxford University researchers, published in the journal Cell, investigated the ability of antibodies in the blood from people, who were vaccinated with the two-shot regimens, to neutralize the highly contagious Delta and Kappa variants, a statement said.

"There is no evidence of widespread escape [the COVID virus dodging antibodies] suggesting that the current generation of vaccines will provide protection against the B.1.617 lineage," the paper said, referring to the Delta and Kappa variants by a commonly used code.
The article goes on to say:
Last week, an analysis by the Public Health England (PHE) showed that vaccines made by Pfizer Inc (PFE.N) and AstraZeneca offer high protection of more than 90% against hospitalization from the Delta variant.
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ExPenhMan wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:17 am Some good news about vaccine protection against the Delta variants. AZ, which is somewhat available in Cambodia, I believe, is particularly effective in preventing hospitalization. Unfortunately, the Reuters story is a bit obtuse (which happens nearly every day).

Headline: AstraZeneca, Pfizer vaccines effective against Delta COVID-19 variants-study
The study by Oxford University researchers, published in the journal Cell, investigated the ability of antibodies in the blood from people, who were vaccinated with the two-shot regimens, to neutralize the highly contagious Delta and Kappa variants, a statement said.

"There is no evidence of widespread escape [the COVID virus dodging antibodies] suggesting that the current generation of vaccines will provide protection against the B.1.617 lineage," the paper said, referring to the Delta and Kappa variants by a commonly used code.
The article goes on to say:
Last week, an analysis by the Public Health England (PHE) showed that vaccines made by Pfizer Inc (PFE.N) and AstraZeneca offer high protection of more than 90% against hospitalization from the Delta variant.
https://www.reuters.com/business/health ... 021-06-22/
I read somewhere that the Chinese vacancies are useless in this case, has been proven by countries that are using the vaccine. The reply was it may take a 3rd booster, also for heard immunity it had changed it's numbers too 85%.
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More than 2m adults in England have had long Covid for over 12 weeks – study
Research says people tend to fall into two categories: those with respiratory illness and those with fatigue-related symptoms
Last modified on Thu 24 Jun 2021 12.56 BST

More than 2 million adults in England have experienced coronavirus symptoms lasting over 12 weeks, government data suggests – double the previous estimate for long Covid.

The study, one of the largest to date, found that people with ongoing symptoms tended to fall into two categories: those with respiratory symptoms, who often experienced more severe illness when they first got sick, and a second group with fatigue-related symptoms.

Like previous studies, it found that women were more commonly affected and that the prevalence of ongoing symptoms increased with age. Researchers described the findings as “alarming”.

The React-2 study is a government-funded population surveillance study that uses finger-prick antibody tests from randomly selected adults in England to assess how far coronavirus has spread. Between September and February, 508,707 participants were also asked whether they thought they had had Covid and about the presence and duration of 29 different symptoms.

The research, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, found that 37.7% of those who had symptomatic Covid experienced at least one symptom lasting 12 weeks or more – equivalent to 2 million people – while 14.8% experienced three or more persistent symptoms.

“The scale of the problem is quite alarming,” said Prof Kevin McConway, emeritus professor of applied statistics at the Open University. “The results can’t tell us clearly how serious those symptoms were in terms of their effects on the patients’ lives. Some may not be very serious, but some of them certainly are, and these results clearly point out how vital it is to understand them properly and to provide adequate treatment and support services for the people involved.”

In May the Office National Statistics (ONS) estimated that 1 million people in the UK were experiencing self-reported long Covid. A key difference is that React-2 did not ask if people had long Covid, only about ongoing symptoms. “Many people may not consider they’ve got long Covid, they just have a persistent slight shortness of breath, or their loss of sense of taste has persisted for many, many months,” said Helen Ward, professor of public health at Imperial College London, who co-led the study.

McConway said the ONS research estimated the number of people who had symptoms lasting at least 12 weeks on a particular date (2 May), while React-2 measured how many have ever had long Covid between September and February.

Meanwhile, a separate study of 312 Norwegian patients published in Nature Medicine on Wednesday found that 61% were still experiencing persistent symptoms at six months – including 52% of 16-30-year-olds. The most common symptoms they reported were loss of taste and/or smell and tiredness.
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CEOCambodiaNews wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:27 pm More than 2m adults in England have had long Covid for over 12 weeks – study
Research says people tend to fall into two categories: those with respiratory illness and those with fatigue-related symptoms
Last modified on Thu 24 Jun 2021 12.56 BST

More than 2 million adults in England have experienced coronavirus symptoms lasting over 12 weeks, government data suggests – double the previous estimate for long Covid.

The study, one of the largest to date, found that people with ongoing symptoms tended to fall into two categories: those with respiratory symptoms, who often experienced more severe illness when they first got sick, and a second group with fatigue-related symptoms.

Like previous studies, it found that women were more commonly affected and that the prevalence of ongoing symptoms increased with age. Researchers described the findings as “alarming”.

The React-2 study is a government-funded population surveillance study that uses finger-prick antibody tests from randomly selected adults in England to assess how far coronavirus has spread. Between September and February, 508,707 participants were also asked whether they thought they had had Covid and about the presence and duration of 29 different symptoms.

The research, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, found that 37.7% of those who had symptomatic Covid experienced at least one symptom lasting 12 weeks or more – equivalent to 2 million people – while 14.8% experienced three or more persistent symptoms.

“The scale of the problem is quite alarming,” said Prof Kevin McConway, emeritus professor of applied statistics at the Open University. “The results can’t tell us clearly how serious those symptoms were in terms of their effects on the patients’ lives. Some may not be very serious, but some of them certainly are, and these results clearly point out how vital it is to understand them properly and to provide adequate treatment and support services for the people involved.”

In May the Office National Statistics (ONS) estimated that 1 million people in the UK were experiencing self-reported long Covid. A key difference is that React-2 did not ask if people had long Covid, only about ongoing symptoms. “Many people may not consider they’ve got long Covid, they just have a persistent slight shortness of breath, or their loss of sense of taste has persisted for many, many months,” said Helen Ward, professor of public health at Imperial College London, who co-led the study.

McConway said the ONS research estimated the number of people who had symptoms lasting at least 12 weeks on a particular date (2 May), while React-2 measured how many have ever had long Covid between September and February.

Meanwhile, a separate study of 312 Norwegian patients published in Nature Medicine on Wednesday found that 61% were still experiencing persistent symptoms at six months – including 52% of 16-30-year-olds. The most common symptoms they reported were loss of taste and/or smell and tiredness.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... eeks-study
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IraHayes wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:50 pm
CEOCambodiaNews wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:27 pm More than 2m adults in England have had long Covid for over 12 weeks – study
Research says people tend to fall into two categories: those with respiratory illness and those with fatigue-related symptoms
Last modified on Thu 24 Jun 2021 12.56 BST

More than 2 million adults in England have experienced coronavirus symptoms lasting over 12 weeks, government data suggests – double the previous estimate for long Covid.

The study, one of the largest to date, found that people with ongoing symptoms tended to fall into two categories: those with respiratory symptoms, who often experienced more severe illness when they first got sick, and a second group with fatigue-related symptoms.

Like previous studies, it found that women were more commonly affected and that the prevalence of ongoing symptoms increased with age. Researchers described the findings as “alarming”.

The React-2 study is a government-funded population surveillance study that uses finger-prick antibody tests from randomly selected adults in England to assess how far coronavirus has spread. Between September and February, 508,707 participants were also asked whether they thought they had had Covid and about the presence and duration of 29 different symptoms.

The research, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, found that 37.7% of those who had symptomatic Covid experienced at least one symptom lasting 12 weeks or more – equivalent to 2 million people – while 14.8% experienced three or more persistent symptoms.

“The scale of the problem is quite alarming,” said Prof Kevin McConway, emeritus professor of applied statistics at the Open University. “The results can’t tell us clearly how serious those symptoms were in terms of their effects on the patients’ lives. Some may not be very serious, but some of them certainly are, and these results clearly point out how vital it is to understand them properly and to provide adequate treatment and support services for the people involved.”

In May the Office National Statistics (ONS) estimated that 1 million people in the UK were experiencing self-reported long Covid. A key difference is that React-2 did not ask if people had long Covid, only about ongoing symptoms. “Many people may not consider they’ve got long Covid, they just have a persistent slight shortness of breath, or their loss of sense of taste has persisted for many, many months,” said Helen Ward, professor of public health at Imperial College London, who co-led the study.

McConway said the ONS research estimated the number of people who had symptoms lasting at least 12 weeks on a particular date (2 May), while React-2 measured how many have ever had long Covid between September and February.

Meanwhile, a separate study of 312 Norwegian patients published in Nature Medicine on Wednesday found that 61% were still experiencing persistent symptoms at six months – including 52% of 16-30-year-olds. The most common symptoms they reported were loss of taste and/or smell and tiredness.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... eeks-study
Holy fck ... It's mutated into a new variation of the Yuppie Flu!!
With people, such has teachers and office workers for example, working online from home for so long, most not wanting to rush back to their old workplace, even after vaccination, people are still weary. Same could be said about factory and warehouse workers, who have been on a rotary system to keep distancing with the lower number workforce actually working a 10 hour week instead of their normal 39 hours. Also most have had their pay subsidised by government at 80%.
So if there's a way of getting money for doing nothing at this stage, I can see it taking place for anyone who can swing it.
That's one of the things I can't do with, people who milk the system.
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IraHayes wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:50 pm
CEOCambodiaNews wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:27 pm More than 2m adults in England have had long Covid for over 12 weeks – study
Research says people tend to fall into two categories: those with respiratory illness and those with fatigue-related symptoms
Last modified on Thu 24 Jun 2021 12.56 BST

More than 2 million adults in England have experienced coronavirus symptoms lasting over 12 weeks, government data suggests – double the previous estimate for long Covid.

The study, one of the largest to date, found that people with ongoing symptoms tended to fall into two categories: those with respiratory symptoms, who often experienced more severe illness when they first got sick, and a second group with fatigue-related symptoms.

Like previous studies, it found that women were more commonly affected and that the prevalence of ongoing symptoms increased with age. Researchers described the findings as “alarming”.

The React-2 study is a government-funded population surveillance study that uses finger-prick antibody tests from randomly selected adults in England to assess how far coronavirus has spread. Between September and February, 508,707 participants were also asked whether they thought they had had Covid and about the presence and duration of 29 different symptoms.

The research, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, found that 37.7% of those who had symptomatic Covid experienced at least one symptom lasting 12 weeks or more – equivalent to 2 million people – while 14.8% experienced three or more persistent symptoms.

“The scale of the problem is quite alarming,” said Prof Kevin McConway, emeritus professor of applied statistics at the Open University. “The results can’t tell us clearly how serious those symptoms were in terms of their effects on the patients’ lives. Some may not be very serious, but some of them certainly are, and these results clearly point out how vital it is to understand them properly and to provide adequate treatment and support services for the people involved.”

In May the Office National Statistics (ONS) estimated that 1 million people in the UK were experiencing self-reported long Covid. A key difference is that React-2 did not ask if people had long Covid, only about ongoing symptoms. “Many people may not consider they’ve got long Covid, they just have a persistent slight shortness of breath, or their loss of sense of taste has persisted for many, many months,” said Helen Ward, professor of public health at Imperial College London, who co-led the study.

McConway said the ONS research estimated the number of people who had symptoms lasting at least 12 weeks on a particular date (2 May), while React-2 measured how many have ever had long Covid between September and February.

Meanwhile, a separate study of 312 Norwegian patients published in Nature Medicine on Wednesday found that 61% were still experiencing persistent symptoms at six months – including 52% of 16-30-year-olds. The most common symptoms they reported were loss of taste and/or smell and tiredness.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... eeks-study
Holy fck ... It's mutated into a new variation of the Yuppie Flu!!
I said this months ago, Long Covid is a malingerers charter with a list of symptoms as long as your arm and no established way to prove people are making it up. Watch out for the movement, supported by the Guardian, for a no-questions-asked long term sick pay for long covid victims.
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Doc67 wrote: Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:59 am
IraHayes wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:50 pm
CEOCambodiaNews wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 7:27 pm More than 2m adults in England have had long Covid for over 12 weeks – study
Research says people tend to fall into two categories: those with respiratory illness and those with fatigue-related symptoms
Last modified on Thu 24 Jun 2021 12.56 BST

More than 2 million adults in England have experienced coronavirus symptoms lasting over 12 weeks, government data suggests – double the previous estimate for long Covid.

The study, one of the largest to date, found that people with ongoing symptoms tended to fall into two categories: those with respiratory symptoms, who often experienced more severe illness when they first got sick, and a second group with fatigue-related symptoms.

Like previous studies, it found that women were more commonly affected and that the prevalence of ongoing symptoms increased with age. Researchers described the findings as “alarming”.

The React-2 study is a government-funded population surveillance study that uses finger-prick antibody tests from randomly selected adults in England to assess how far coronavirus has spread. Between September and February, 508,707 participants were also asked whether they thought they had had Covid and about the presence and duration of 29 different symptoms.

The research, which has not yet been peer-reviewed, found that 37.7% of those who had symptomatic Covid experienced at least one symptom lasting 12 weeks or more – equivalent to 2 million people – while 14.8% experienced three or more persistent symptoms.

“The scale of the problem is quite alarming,” said Prof Kevin McConway, emeritus professor of applied statistics at the Open University. “The results can’t tell us clearly how serious those symptoms were in terms of their effects on the patients’ lives. Some may not be very serious, but some of them certainly are, and these results clearly point out how vital it is to understand them properly and to provide adequate treatment and support services for the people involved.”

In May the Office National Statistics (ONS) estimated that 1 million people in the UK were experiencing self-reported long Covid. A key difference is that React-2 did not ask if people had long Covid, only about ongoing symptoms. “Many people may not consider they’ve got long Covid, they just have a persistent slight shortness of breath, or their loss of sense of taste has persisted for many, many months,” said Helen Ward, professor of public health at Imperial College London, who co-led the study.

McConway said the ONS research estimated the number of people who had symptoms lasting at least 12 weeks on a particular date (2 May), while React-2 measured how many have ever had long Covid between September and February.

Meanwhile, a separate study of 312 Norwegian patients published in Nature Medicine on Wednesday found that 61% were still experiencing persistent symptoms at six months – including 52% of 16-30-year-olds. The most common symptoms they reported were loss of taste and/or smell and tiredness.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... eeks-study
Holy fck ... It's mutated into a new variation of the Yuppie Flu!!
I said this months ago, Long Covid is a malingerers charter with a list of symptoms as long as your arm and no established way to prove people are making it up. Watch out for the movement, supported by the Guardian, for a no-questions-asked long term sick pay for long covid victims.
I'd think that long term lung damage would be readily identifiable though.
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