America, the great Satan?

Isaanbarang · Post by **Isaanbarang** » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:58 pm

Brody wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:47 pm
Isaanbarang wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:43 pm
Brody wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:40 pm
Isaanbarang wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:37 pm stale drivel
Why don't you just take your ban like a man and stay away for a spell, instead of resorting to a thinly veiled sock?
I am not banned mate. You see things under rocks. Cheers
Two bloviating, bully knuckleheads of equal magnitude on CEO?......I suppose it's possible but not probable......anyway have fun with your thread.

Your objurgation stings. Pip Pip

franzjaeger · Post by **franzjaeger** » Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:59 pm

That's the thing, the US holds all nationalities, such as a large and growing Asian population, as well as halfbreds. Iranians, Indians, Europeans,.. the nation represents all the people of the world. Go to China, and there is nothing but Chinese. If they ruled the world, it would only serve the interest of a single people. Go USA, I'm with you, despite not being born or raised there. As for schools and healthcare, try and compare it with any other nation of the same size. I know, Canada does better integrating foreigners, but it's also darn cold, and so keeping people inside most of the year.

BR549 · Post by **BR549** » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:02 pm

The beauty of all these negative examples of the USA is how it explains why we went to the polls in 2016 and elected President Donald J. Trump.
The USA spends more on its schools than any other country and they suck.
The homeless are a direct result of the democrat party policies in major cities and coastel states.
The healthcare system is a perfect example of where Trump is trying to make a difference by forcing hospitals to tell you upfront the costs of procedures, lowering prescription drug prices, allowing choice in plans, allowing very ill people to try experimental medicines, closing the border to stop the inflow of millions of unvaccinated illegals who also drain the resources allocated for the lower income citizen.
On and on.
He is the one whose policies have created an economy second to none in the last 3 years.
He is the one who wants to get out of the regime change game.
He is the one that wants families to have school choice and not be forced to send their kids to public schools that are run by the socialist democrat unions.
Meanwhile, he has restored the military to the most advanced and most lethal force in the history of the planet.
President Trump is the force behind the USA becoming energy independent and now an exporter of energy. The USA is no longer dependent on oil from the middle east or natural gas from russia.
Can the EU, china, Japan or India make this claim?
I agree with all of you who want the USA to focus on the USA.
Where do you think the term MAGA comes from?
Where are your lists of what the soviet union did during its heyday?
Where is the list of what iran has done with the leadership of this terrorist who was just eliminated?

tightenupvolume1 · Post by **tightenupvolume1** » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:21 pm

Post by **Clutch Cargo** » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:37 pm

Here is a more direct link to the OP's post: https://williamblum.org/essays/read/ove ... aster-list

Title: Overthrowing other people’s governments: The Master List
By William Blum

William Blum was an author, historian, and U.S. foreign policy critic. He was the author of Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II and Rogue State: A Guide to the World’s Only Superpower, among others.

cptrelentless · Post by **cptrelentless** » Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:04 pm

BR549 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:02 pm The beauty of all these negative examples of the USA is how it explains why we went to the polls in 2016 and elected President Donald J. Trump.
The USA spends more on its schools than any other country and they suck.
The homeless are a direct result of the democrat party policies in major cities and coastel states.
The healthcare system is a perfect example of where Trump is trying to make a difference by forcing hospitals to tell you upfront the costs of procedures, lowering prescription drug prices, allowing choice in plans, allowing very ill people to try experimental medicines, closing the border to stop the inflow of millions of unvaccinated illegals who also drain the resources allocated for the lower income citizen.
On and on.
He is the one whose policies have created an economy second to none in the last 3 years.
He is the one who wants to get out of the regime change game.
He is the one that wants families to have school choice and not be forced to send their kids to public schools that are run by the socialist democrat unions.
Meanwhile, he has restored the military to the most advanced and most lethal force in the history of the planet.
President Trump is the force behind the USA becoming energy independent and now an exporter of energy. The USA is no longer dependent on oil from the middle east or natural gas from russia.
Can the EU, china, Japan or India make this claim?
I agree with all of you who want the USA to focus on the USA.
Where do you think the term MAGA comes from?
Where are your lists of what the soviet union did during its heyday?
Where is the list of what iran has done with the leadership of this terrorist who was just eliminated?

So if you're MAGA, when exactly was America not great? Which period is the bit you didn't like? When there was a black man in the White House? Or Dubya? Or the man part of Clinton? The other Bush? The guy with Alzheimer's? Or before that? Energy independence in the USA is the result of fracking, which pre-dates Trump, same as the economy - it's a well known fact that economic decisions don't take effect until at least the next term, so if anything Trump is riding the bounce back from the 2008 crash gifted him by Obama and the US is due a recession. Pretty much none of the several dozen economics advisers passing through the revolving door of the Trump cabinet had an actual qualification in economics. He's rolling craps but the shit won't show up for another couple of years. The homeless, lack of medical care for the sick, your school teachers having to buy pencils and paper out of your own pockets etc is because of a failure to provide a social welfare system, which every other civilised country apart from China has. The majority of personal bankruptcies in the US are from medical bills. Massive school loans debt destroys the purchasing power of your youth and robs your economy of fluidity, you live in a feudal system where 1% of your population owns 99% of land and production, like a Russian serf, and now you're going to piss trillions of dollars away on a pointless dick-waving exercise, money that will come out of your pension and social security. What is the end game with Iran? There is none. Oh yeah, and Mexicans get vaccinated by the state for free, best in Latin America: https://www.eluniversal.com.mx/english/ ... in-america

franzjaeger · Post by **franzjaeger** » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:02 am

Please go check your facts. The US is not a net exporter of crude oil. It still gets 20% from the middle East. The US is a net exporter of refined oil, which is a totally different thing. The oil from the middle East is of a much higher quality and much cheaper to get out of the ground than shale oil. Trump is no saint imo, he is also a fat aggressive bastard to look at.

tightenupvolume1 · Post by **tightenupvolume1** » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:26 pm

BR549 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:02 pm The beauty of all these negative examples of the USA is how it explains why we went to the polls in 2016 and elected President Donald J. Trump.
The USA spends more on its schools than any other country and they suck.
The homeless are a direct result of the democrat party policies in major cities and coastel states.
The healthcare system is a perfect example of where Trump is trying to make a difference by forcing hospitals to tell you upfront the costs of procedures, lowering prescription drug prices, allowing choice in plans, allowing very ill people to try experimental medicines, closing the border to stop the inflow of millions of unvaccinated illegals who also drain the resources allocated for the lower income citizen.
On and on.
He is the one whose policies have created an economy second to none in the last 3 years.
He is the one who wants to get out of the regime change game.
He is the one that wants families to have school choice and not be forced to send their kids to public schools that are run by the socialist democrat unions.
Meanwhile, he has restored the military to the most advanced and most lethal force in the history of the planet.
President Trump is the force behind the USA becoming energy independent and now an exporter of energy. The USA is no longer dependent on oil from the middle east or natural gas from russia.
Can the EU, china, Japan or India make this claim?
I agree with all of you who want the USA to focus on the USA.
Where do you think the term MAGA comes from?
Where are your lists of what the soviet union did during its heyday?
Where is the list of what iran has done with the leadership of this terrorist who was just eliminated?

And you got all this info from the MSM but of course it is pro trump media so you of course believe it

Phnom Poon · Post by **Phnom Poon** » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:04 pm

there are plenty of good things from america
also plenty of bad
mainly it's the land of hypocrisy
of course everyone is guilty, but america elevates it to an art form

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