AirAsia flight QZ8501 Indonesia to Singapore loses contact

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fuselage piece lifted for the first time...

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what to die of in an aircrash...

from AF447
The autopsies performed identified fractures of the spinal column, the thorax and the pelvis.
The fractures described were located mainly at the level of the transition vertebrae.

...there was no possibility of surviving the accident.
http://www.bea.aero/docspa/2009/f-cp090 ... 601.en.pdf
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AF447 - the voice recorder transcript

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- flight data recorder on the way to the lab
- voice recorder located, to be lifted within hours
The flight data recorder of AirAsia flight QZ8501 has been lifted from the Java Sea, the head of the Indonesian search and rescue agency said. The divers then found the plane’s second black box.

A team of Indonesian navy divers on Monday retrieved the first black box from the plane, which crashed on December 28 killing all 162 people on board.

“This morning I had an official report from the national transportation safety committee. At 7:11 we had succeeded in lifting the part of the black box known as the flight data recorder,” Fransiskus Bambang Soelistyo, head of the search and rescue agency, was quoted by Reuters.

Hours later, AP quoted officials as saying that the location of the cockpit voice recorder (CVR) had also been established – 20 meters from the flight data recorder. However, the divers haven’t yet been able to free it from the plane’s wreckage.

“Hopefully, it can be retrieved within hours today,” Suryadi Bambang Supriyadi, operation coordinator at the national search and rescue agency, told AP.
http://rt.com/news/221635-airasia-black-box-lifted/

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..for analysis to Jakarta...

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flight deck airbus a320

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stall - angle of attack
A stall is a condition in aerodynamics and aviation wherein the angle of attack increases beyond a certain point such that the lift begins to decrease. (wiki)
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there is another pic from wiki from airbus 320, it seems there is besides the electronic AoA-device another "mechanical" one...?
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AF447 "we are in Toga"
its apparently position "T" of the throttle...
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TOGA is at the most forward TLA (Thrust Lever Angle.) There is Flex/MCT and then there is CLB.

For a max power T/Off or a go a round, TOGA is used. For a normal takeoff Flex/MCT is used. Flex means using less than max power, you would put the assumed temperature in the MCDU and the computer would calculate the thrust output required. The climb detent is used for, obviously, climb power, but this is also the detent used for cruise and descent.
Furthermore, this detent is also used for landing, unless A/THR is selected off.
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Further to the above, I think you are trying to correlate modes with thrust lever movements.
If you are in approach mode with the autopilot in, and you move the thrust levers to "TOGA" (ie. full power, TOGA= (TakeOff/GoAround) then the automatics will give you full power and also follow the go-around track, provided this is in the computer already. The mode will change to "Go-Around Track". You can of course take it out of go-around track should you want to fly a heading say.

Bascially, the aircraft is reading what you want to do. It says, well, you are on the approach and now you want full power so you must want me to go-around, and that is what it will do, unless you stop it.

As mentioned, TOGA is only really used for TakeOff (when full power is needed) and for Go-Around situations.

Otherwise you remain in Climb detent, which is basically autothrust active "mode" and would I guess be the same as in a Boeing except the levers themselves don't move.

Pushing the thrust levers to the full forward "TOGA" position will always give you full power.

FLX/MCT, the middle gate, is used for take-off (as mentioned) and also in the event of an engine out condition.

On the take-off you can still go TOGA, one example is if you forget to set an assumed temperature, and you start the take-off roll, you would not abort (although it has been known), you would just go full forward to TOGA power.

Say you are doing a Flex take-off (reduced power) and you had an engine failure on take-off, then you would push the thrust leveres full forward, into TOGA detent, thus giving you full power on remaining engine.
At the appropriate time you would bring the thrust back to MCT (Max Continuous Thrust) on the good engine.

Alternatively when flying you can of course disconnect the autothrust and then the thrust levers are just like regular thrust levers.
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pitch - nose up and down (?)

could be the c-like stick on the right... in airbus each pilot has one, and each is always fully functionable, cant be turned off (faik).
that's why airbus-pilots will say "I have control", to make clear, that they are now using the gear.
in boeing this is different, only one can effectively control the plane.

this stick, I understand, was on max-nose-up setting all the time, while the plane was gaining downwards speed and the computer yelled about 70 times "STALL" through the cockpit...

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