Honda motorbike dealer issues

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Honda motorbike dealer issues

Post by talltuktuk » Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:14 pm

I bought my Click secondhand. It has 30k on the clock and I want to have the intake & exhaust valves checked for factory specs and adjusted if necessary. I took it to a Honda dealership and they listened to it and said it doesn’t need it. I told them I didn’t care what it sounded like, I wanted it checked for factory specs and adjusted if necessary. They then told me I needed another part (not sure what it is, see pic) to stop the noise but that it wasn’t an important part. Again I told them (using a native translator and pictures of valves being checked and adjusted) that I wanted this done. They said it was totally unnecessary and there was nothing wrong with the bike. I also told them I wanted it done with the engine cold (as is the proper way) and they told me the would do it with the engine hot. Now I understand that to them, I’m a crazy person trying to have a running bike fixed. Everyone here drives their bikes into the ground and doesn’t understand the idea of preventative maintenance. But I’m from the US and have been working on bikes and cars for a long time. I want things done the right way. I go to Honda instead of local shops because I want the bike fixed to factory standards. And usually they don’t disappoint. But today I’m literally trying to hand them business and they don’t want to do it. Any insight is appreciated, even if you’re telling me I’m crazy.


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Re: Honda motorbike dealer issues

Post by Bitte_Kein_Lexus » Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:30 pm

Why did you buy a secondhand bike?
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Re: Honda motorbike dealer issues

Post by Bubble T » Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:35 pm

OP, what do you mean when you talk about "factory standard" for a second hand bike with 30k on the clock? I did a quick search for it and only came up with you making this exact same post on ThaiVisa forums.
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Re: Honda motorbike dealer issues

Post by Kammekor » Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:52 pm

Honda dealerships are mainly selling points. They can do some basic repairs, but that's that. Don't expect too much.
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Re: Honda motorbike dealer issues

Post by Spigzy » Sun Sep 22, 2019 8:06 pm

It’s a Clik not a Ducati, ride it into the ground, sell it for $100 less than you bought it, buy another one second hand. #rinse #repeat
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Re: Honda motorbike dealer issues

Post by talltuktuk » Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:42 am

Bubble T wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:35 pm
OP, what do you mean when you talk about "factory standard" for a second hand bike with 30k on the clock? I did a quick search for it and only came up with you making this exact same post on ThaiVisa forums.
Engine wear takes design tolerances out of spec. Engine performance suffers, and sometimes it leads to premature failure. A simply way to prevent this is to make sure the engine is operating the way it was designed.
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Re: Honda motorbike dealer issues

Post by beaker » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:12 am

That looks like a timing chain adjuster to me with parts of it removed.
That is a very critical part if it fails it could cause catastrophic engine failure.

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Re: Honda motorbike dealer issues

Post by Jerry Atrick » Mon Sep 23, 2019 9:46 am

Yeah, don't ignore timing chain rattle.

TWO on St 376 will do both, properly for you.

He's on 012200513
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Re: Honda motorbike dealer issues

Post by Kuroneko » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:21 am

talltuktuk wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:14 pm
I bought my Click secondhand. It has 30k on the clock and I want to have the intake & exhaust valves checked for factory specs and adjusted if necessary. I took it to a Honda dealership and they listened to it and said it doesn’t need it. I told them I didn’t care what it sounded like, I wanted it checked for factory specs and adjusted if necessary.
Good luck with that, :D for some reason getting valve clearances done seems to be as hard as buying hens teeth! I bought a Yamaha Jupiter new about seven years ago. Yamaha main dealer servicing has always been excellent with the exception of checking valve clearances. Reluctance seemed to boil down to not having a feeler gauge. Solution get the piston to tdc expose the valves and attempt to "wiggle" the valve adjusters, if they move ok, if not loosen the valves slightly and try again. :lol:

Best solution first buy a feeler gauge from Russian Market, you need the offset type not the straight ones. Make sure you know the clearances and go back, give them the gauge and stand over them until they do it. You could do it yourself (not many tools needed) or wheel the bike cold to a local shop close to you, let the guy prepare the bike for valve adjustment. You then use your gauge to set the valves and the local guy then puts things back together.

I see Jerry Atrick has given a recommendation that is probably the best and most reliable solution.

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Re: Honda motorbike dealer issues

Post by whatwat » Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:32 am

talltuktuk wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:42 am
Bubble T wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:35 pm
OP, what do you mean when you talk about "factory standard" for a second hand bike with 30k on the clock? I did a quick search for it and only came up with you making this exact same post on ThaiVisa forums.
Engine wear takes design tolerances out of spec. Engine performance suffers, and sometimes it leads to premature failure. A simply way to prevent this is to make sure the engine is operating the way it was designed.
So that 30k km where is hasn’t been put back to “factory standards” then what?
Everything wears and some of it you can’t get back to “factory standards” without replacing it - crank, piston, valves seats, valve stems, cylinder, gudgeon pins, crank bearings, gearbox etc etc.

Simply adjusting valve clearances (which I don’t think is even possible or needed at 30k on a Wave) isn’t going to magically make the moto perform like new.

Don’t take any bike to any dealer. They are useless and are only good at selling new motos, overpriced OEM parts and $30 helmets that cost $10 anywhere else.

Buying a bike new and getting it serviced regularly is the only way to prolong a motos life.
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